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Post by Prime Time on Apr 13, 2010 9:42:40 GMT -5
There's a young man that I know who "pledged" underground for a greek organization, had a public coming out show, and sported letters around campus. Unbeknown to him at the time, he was never "officially" a member. The chapter offered to pay his fees and dues for him at the time -because of his immense popularity as a freshman- but they never did. Since finding out he's disassociated himself from the org completely and now wants to be a member of another org.
What advice would you give to this young man?
His vitals:
-SGA leadership position 3 years and running
-Disassociated for 2 years
-3.7 GPA
-Very active in the community (won 2 community service awards)
-Great personality and a "go to" guy around campus for advice and counsel
-Active in church
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 13, 2010 9:43:40 GMT -5
Hold up, hold up. Did you go introduce yourself in the Welcome Thread?
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Post by Oldskool on Apr 13, 2010 9:46:47 GMT -5
Hold up, hold up. Did you go introduce yourself in the Welcome Thread? Here we go........Look at cha..... and always talking 'bout me..... ;D |
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Post by Prime Time on Apr 13, 2010 9:47:23 GMT -5
Lol! For the last time I did. Is there something that you want to know or something that I didn't provide?
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 13, 2010 9:49:02 GMT -5
I''ve asked you questions there. You gotta keep looking back, part of your iniation process, know what I mean, lol!
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Post by Julie Art on Apr 13, 2010 9:49:28 GMT -5
Hold up, hold up. Did you go introduce yourself in the Welcome Thread? Here we go........Look at cha..... and always talking 'bout me..... ;D At least I didn't go tell him to go get me a diet coke  |
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 13, 2010 9:52:03 GMT -5
Hell Sis, he didn't answer my questions in the "First to Know" thread either... Ooh, he fixed it!
You're quick; I like you.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Apr 13, 2010 10:34:04 GMT -5
LOL @ not one post yet being on topic. Gotta love this joint!
"Because of his immense popularity as a FRESHMAN" they wanted to pay for him to pledge. This should have set off bells here. I can't see him "coming out" as one org and then pledging another org. My advice would be to help him recognize that he got screwed over by a chapter and not the org and not leapfrog into (what presumeably) was his second choice as a Grad. Stick with the first choice and the reasons he wanted to join in the first place, just do it Grad on the up and up.
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Post by Iceman on Apr 13, 2010 10:41:55 GMT -5
His stats sound all well and good. However, there still remains the fact that he pledged, publically probated, and walked around as a new member of that Org – So that’s that. He can want to pursue another Frat, but what other Frat on THAT campus would take him at that point?? Nobody wants to be looked at as choosing another Org’s seconds.
Since he’s basically a Ghost with nothing on file for him on any national rolls, I suppose he could pursue another Org on another campus or possibly Grad. But as far as that particular yard goes, I’m assuming it’s a wrap. My advice would be to try to get his business straight, work with the members/advisor in an attempt to become official, and look at the bigger picture of the Frat beyond the chapter that deceived him. If not, I don’t know what to tell the young homie.
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 13, 2010 10:50:41 GMT -5
Yep...
What ^^they^^ said.
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Post by Prime Time on Apr 13, 2010 10:57:48 GMT -5
LOL @ not one post yet being on topic. Gotta love this joint! "Because of his immense popularity as a FRESHMAN" they wanted to pay for him to pledge. This should have set off bells here. I can't see him "coming out" as one org and then pledging another org. My advice would be to help him recognize that he got screwed over by a chapter and not the org and not leapfrog into (what presumeably) was his second choice as a Grad. Stick with the first choice and the reasons he wanted to join in the first place, just do it Grad on the up and up. You know this isn't the first time I've heard of something like this actually happening. There have been other instances where chapters are trying to get their rep up so they actively recruit, deceive, and trap "good aspirants". I'm not sure if the trapping is intentional, but the org always receive the props for bringing in a good recruit. |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Apr 13, 2010 11:01:36 GMT -5
*stares in disbelief*
WOW, things have changed A LOT.
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Post by Blu on Apr 13, 2010 13:01:03 GMT -5
His stats sound all well and good. However, there still remains the fact that he pledged, publically probated, and walked around as a new member of that Org – So that’s that. He can want to pursue another Frat, but what other Frat on THAT campus would take him at that point?? Nobody wants to be looked at as choosing another Org’s seconds. Since he’s basically a Ghost with nothing on file for him on any national rolls, I suppose he could pursue another Org on another campus or possibly Grad. But as far as that particular yard goes, I’m assuming it’s a wrap. My advice would be to try to get his business straight, work with the members/advisor in an attempt to become official, and look at the bigger picture of the Frat beyond the chapter that deceived him. If not, I don’t know what to tell the young homie. I agree Ice.. He could always relocate and go grad for another Frat somewhere else, but the world is a small place and I'm sure his new Frat will not be too appreciative.. He should just try and become official.. |
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Post by BKupInHere on Apr 13, 2010 13:06:33 GMT -5
With the internet (Twitter & FB especially) it will be known QUICKLY that he had pledged (official or not) another Org. It does suck big lemons what happened to him though.
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Post by icebraka on Apr 13, 2010 13:16:48 GMT -5
There's a young man that I know who "pledged" underground for a greek organization, had a public coming out show, and sported letters around campus. Unbeknown to him at the time, he was never "officially" a member. The chapter offered to pay his fees and dues for him at the time -because of his immense popularity as a freshman- but they never did. Since finding out he's disassociated himself from the org completely and now wants to be a member of another org. What advice would you give to this young man? His vitals: -SGA leadership position 3 years and running -Disassociated for 2 years -3.7 GPA -Very active in the community (won 2 community service awards) -Great personality and a "go to" guy around campus for advice and counsel -Active in church I know someone like that....did Alpher underground and told me he wanted to be a Kapper.  <-------My face! |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 13, 2010 13:35:01 GMT -5
To reiterate what some others have already said...
I have to assume his first choice was intentional... he was happy to go through the process, happy to be identified as one, and if there hadn't been a problem with the paperwork, he presumably would STILL be happy to be one.
His love for his org didn't extend further than his paperwork? I'm not saying it wasn't wrong, I'm just saying, THAT would be enough for him to decide he doesn't want to be a part of it anymore?
*Does not compute*
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Post by Iceman on Apr 13, 2010 14:12:33 GMT -5
There's a young man that I know who "pledged" underground for a greek organization, had a public coming out show, and sported letters around campus. Unbeknown to him at the time, he was never "officially" a member. The chapter offered to pay his fees and dues for him at the time -because of his immense popularity as a freshman- but they never did. Since finding out he's disassociated himself from the org completely and now wants to be a member of another org. What advice would you give to this young man? His vitals: -SGA leadership position 3 years and running -Disassociated for 2 years -3.7 GPA -Very active in the community (won 2 community service awards) -Great personality and a "go to" guy around campus for advice and counsel -Active in church I know someone like that....did Alpher underground and told me he wanted to be a Kapper. <-------My face! You know, more and more I keep hearing these stories about how kids are switching their minds after already being initiated into one Org. Like, how do you just later have a greek-life crisis and become unsure if you joined the correct Org or not? Crazy. If you’re going to join an Org, especially if you are going to pledge and make all the sacrifices that come with it – Shouldn’t you be absolutely sure you’re putting yourself out there for the right one that personally matches up to your ideas, character, temperament, etc? And how will you know? By doing your due diligence on the Org, getting to know the members, and seeing if everything is a near perfect fit. It sounds like a lot of interests are making impulse decisions about joining an Org without any real research or observation. Almost as if they just want to belong to “something” and decide to cling to whatever is available at the moment. Later on, it must flat out suck to have that feeling of being stuck in something you didn’t totally think through – Or to be up in the stepshow secretly cheering for another Frat to win....LOL |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Apr 13, 2010 14:28:44 GMT -5
hilarious.. the turn of this conversation is similar to a convo I just had on Saturday with a friend...
Some people aren't joining these org with forever in mind.. they are trying to enhance their college experience on a social level.... The ME ME ME generation is not really big on commitment or their commitment can be swayed based on certain conditions...
True story..
You want to be a XYZ base off of totally superficial values. The XYZ chapter is off yard but the ABC chapter at the school has the same superficial stereotypes that are usually connected to XYZ. You decided to join the ABC chapter, enjoy your college experience and then graduate.. After moving on you realize every chapter aint your chapter... become inactive and confess deep down you wanted to be a such and such...
seen it happen quite a few times...
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Post by DamieQue™ on Apr 13, 2010 14:34:10 GMT -5
hilarious.. the turn of this conversation is similar to a convo I just had on Saturday with a friend... Some people aren't joining these org with forever in mind.. they are trying to enhance their college experience on a social level.... The ME ME ME generation is not really big on commitment or their commitment can be swayed based on certain conditions... True story.. You want to be a XYZ base off of totally superficial values. The XYZ chapter is off yard but the ABC chapter at the school as the same superficial stereotypes that are usually connected to XYZ. You decided to join the ABC chapter, enjoy your college experience and then graduate.. After moving on you realize every chapter aint your chapter... become inactive and confess deep down you wanted to be a such and such... seen it happen quite a few times... |
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 13, 2010 15:15:39 GMT -5
this here... this shit right here.... is exactly why we collect yo $hit up front!
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Post by Troopa1911 on Apr 13, 2010 22:11:18 GMT -5
The org that MADE him should do whatever it take to MAKE him RIGHT at this point. I hate to see this immensely popular freshman sharing secrets to another org. 
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Post by T-Rex91 on Apr 14, 2010 7:09:22 GMT -5
Good point Troopa.
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Post by FatalDST on Apr 14, 2010 8:15:56 GMT -5
The org that MADE him should do whatever it take to MAKE him RIGHT at this point. I hate to see this immensely popular freshman sharing secrets to another org. Agreed. |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Apr 14, 2010 8:32:10 GMT -5
I know someone like that....did Alpher underground and told me he wanted to be a Kapper. <-------My face! You know, more and more I keep hearing these stories about how kids are switching their minds after already being initiated into one Org. Like, how do you just later have a greek-life crisis and become unsure if you joined the correct Org or not? Crazy. If you’re going to join an Org, especially if you are going to pledge and make all the sacrifices that come with it – Shouldn’t you be absolutely sure you’re putting yourself out there for the right one that personally matches up to your ideas, character, temperament, etc? And how will you know? By doing your due diligence on the Org, getting to know the members, and seeing if everything is a near perfect fit.
It sounds like a lot of interests are making impulse decisions about joining an Org without any real research or observation. Almost as if they just want to belong to “something” and decide to cling to whatever is available at the moment. Later on, it must flat out suck to have that feeling of being stuck in something you didn’t totally think through – Or to be up in the stepshow secretly cheering for another Frat to win....LOLfor these reason are why those alternative orgs are in existence. lol |
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Post by Chal™ on Apr 14, 2010 16:05:28 GMT -5
*stares in disbelief* WOW, things have changed A LOT. what? you never heard of the "recruiting committees"? Shut up, Chal.  |
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 15, 2010 13:38:05 GMT -5
Let the church say AMEN! It sounds like a lot of interests are making impulse decisions about joining an Org without any real research or observation. Almost as if they just want to belong to “something” and decide to cling to whatever is available at the moment. Later on, it must flat out suck to have that feeling of being stuck in something you didn’t totally think through |
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 15, 2010 13:39:38 GMT -5
The are people with no purpose who need soemthing to define them & somewhere to belong. Like I tell people: If you're a lame without letters, you'll be just as lame with them. Work on yourself. Get your own social weight up first. SMH UGH hilarious.. the turn of this conversation is similar to a convo I just had on Saturday with a friend... Some people aren't joining these org with forever in mind.. they are trying to enhance their college experience on a social level.... The ME ME ME generation is not really big on commitment or their commitment can be swayed based on certain conditions... True story.. You want to be a XYZ base off of totally superficial values. The XYZ chapter is off yard but the ABC chapter at the school has the same superficial stereotypes that are usually connected to XYZ. You decided to join the ABC chapter, enjoy your college experience and then graduate.. After moving on you realize every chapter aint your chapter... become inactive and confess deep down you wanted to be a such and such... seen it happen quite a few times... |
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Apr 15, 2010 14:03:34 GMT -5
lol this ninja talking about himself. Helllll Naw
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Post by thatque on Apr 15, 2010 14:36:07 GMT -5
Real Talk (as much as I dislike this pharse)
Hear is a real story! The names & Org has been changed to protect the innocent & the guilty!
Mr Robert Brown who went away to school (College) & he had never heard of or didn't know anything about College Fraternities. But he met a young man in his major who was a part of a "College Fraternity" & Mr. Robert Brown liked this person & his Frat, so he joined!
Thinking that this Frat was a academic fraternity, he was ok until he found out that it was indeed social BGLO fratermity. So feeling mislead & betrayed he renounced said frat, but due to the backlash & the shame behind this mistake Mr. Robert Brown transferred to a different school in a different state!
After watching all the fraternites for about a year or so he did his research & decided that he wanted to be a member of a different frat which fit him & what he really wanted. Needless to say that Mr. Robert Brown did ALL of the necessary & required things (Legal & Illegal) to become a member of his new BGLO Fraternity!
Now Mr. Robert Brown is happy & in the frat that he REALLY wants to be in & he gets active working on his new campus, new community, & his new fraternity then he is asked to go on a Road Trip to a different state (not where he was in school at) & he goes but he is recognized by several young ladies in different sororities as the same guy from thier school (which he transferred) from & of course they told all the members of his current BGLO frat, as well as all the other greeks!
So what happens in this case? The difference is that his money was paid TWICE to both organizations, & he is a offical member of two different BGLO's now this person is being shut out of BOTH Frats. Besides Mr. Robert Brown himself,
Who is really at fault here? & What do you all think?
NUFF SAID
ROO I'M OWT!
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Post by Oren Ishii on Apr 15, 2010 14:43:46 GMT -5
VP. you are so silly (and mean!) LOL lol this ninja talking about himself. Helllll Naw |
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