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Post by T-Rex91 on Feb 4, 2010 10:34:31 GMT -5
Did y'all talk about this already? The latest is that the families of several of the children gave them up after being shown brochures of the swimming pool lifestyle the kids would get in the US. Do you think they should be charged with trafficking for trying to get the kids out of that situation? Do you think the US government should intervene?
Haiti earthquake: US Baptists face child trafficking charges Ten American Baptists who tried to take orphans out of the country will appear in court to learn whether they face child trafficking charges. Published: 12:12PM GMT 01 Feb 2010
Members of Idaho-based charity called New Life Children's Refuge sit at a police station in Port-au-Prince Photo: AFP/GETTY The members of a church group from Idaho attempted to take 33 Haitian children to an orphanage being built in the Dominican Republic without official authorisation.
The five men and five women were stopped with the children, aged between two months and 14 years, at a border crossing on Friday and are due to appear in court on Monday.
It emerged on Sunday that most of the 33 children have family members that survived the Jan 12 earthquake.
Patricia Vargas, regional director of the SOS Children's Village, where the children are being cared for, told the AFP news agency officials at the Haitian Institute of Social Welfare told her "most of the kids have family".
Miss Vargas said some of the older children of the group had confirmed the officials' words. Children over the age of seven said that "their parents are alive, and some of them gave us an address and phone numbers," she said.
The US embassy in Haiti said on Sunday that ten US citizens were being held for "alleged violations of Haitian laws related to immigration".
A spokesman for the church group said it had nothing but the best of intentions for the children, wanting to give them a better life.
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Post by 123Diva on Feb 4, 2010 10:51:50 GMT -5
Hmmmm, so I was very sympathetic towards the missionaries when this story first broke. However, the more I hear about this situation is the more that sympathy has faded. It particularly does not sit well with me that other missionaries said it sounded like something illegal when they were offered to join in on taking some of the children across the border to the DR side.
I'm waiting on more info.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Feb 4, 2010 11:32:44 GMT -5
Interesting. I was never sympathetic toward them. They thought they were doing right by saving children from the horrible condititions but I tend to be a by the book kind of person and what they did was illegal. They were even warned.
I'm less inclined to feel sympathy toward them since I found out they showed traumatized parents brochures of what life in America is like "allegedly" to coerce them to give up their children. Good intentions, horrible execution.
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Post by Cambist on Feb 4, 2010 14:21:20 GMT -5
Criminals.
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 4, 2010 17:22:48 GMT -5
Interesting. I was never sympathetic toward them. They thought they were doing right by saving children from the horrible condititions but I tend to be a by the book kind of person and what they did was illegal. They were even warned. I'm less inclined to feel sympathy toward them since I found out they showed traumatized parents brochures of what life in America is like "allegedly" to coerce them to give up their children. Good intentions, horrible execution. That part is what has me like, GTFOH! Come on now. I don't even think they had good intentions on their part, I really don't. If you gonna do this, why NOT do this for children who really are ORPHANS, not once that was picked and choosen for whatever measuring rod they used, because it was definitley not about helping those who lost their parents in the earthquake. Something stinks here, real bad. And did they say Idaho? Isn't this the same state where at a Palin rally some idiot said he feels like Palin is filled with the Holy Ghost and that is why he is voting for her? If so, that says alot
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Post by Coldfront06 on Feb 4, 2010 18:11:27 GMT -5
Basically. I didn't trust this from the start. Missionaries from Idaho was all I needed to hear to make me suspicious.
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Post by LogAKAlly <3'n Keef on Feb 4, 2010 18:19:03 GMT -5
White folks just can't help themselves from constantly trying to be the Great White Hope of the damn planet. They think they know what's best for EVERYBODY. I would not be surprised if they had music lessons and etiquette classes already lined up to "help them" to develop "socially" *cough* (civilize them) *cough*
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Post by Oren Ishii on Feb 4, 2010 18:25:35 GMT -5
What Julie said. This stunk to High Heaven from the get go. I really don't think these people are to be trusted. From what I learned working with the Polaris Project (check them out), I just feel "something in the milk ain't clean." If they were doing God's work, why is there such deception involved? We all know everyone who claims to be Christian is not Christ-like. These people are criminals. Point blank. That part is what has me like, GTFOH! Come on now. I don't even think they had good intentions on their part, I really don't. If you gonna do this, why NOT do this for children who really are ORPHANS, not once that was picked and choosen for whatever measuring rod they used, because it was definitley not about helping those who lost their parents in the earthquake. Something stinks here, real bad. And did they say Idaho? Isn't this the same state where at a Palin rally some idiot said he feels like Palin is filled with the Holy Ghost and that is why he is voting for her? If so, that says alot
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Post by Oren Ishii on Feb 4, 2010 18:26:35 GMT -5
Seriously, because of stuff like this, I love you guys sometimes. Like, for real. It's not just me then? GOOD. White folks just can't help themselves from constantly trying to be the Great White Hope of the damn planet. They think they know what's best for EVERYBODY. I would not be surprised if they had music lessons and etiquette classes already lined up to "help them" to develop "socially" *cough* (civilize them) *cough*
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 4, 2010 20:19:03 GMT -5
You know what, I'm religious, and these so called religious groups get on my NERVES sometimes with their self proclaimed wanna be righteous self. Wasn't it Missionaries who proclaimed they were doing Gods work by enslaving Africans and bringing them to God?
Everything that glitters isn't gold. That group is up to something.
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Post by 123Diva on Feb 4, 2010 21:18:05 GMT -5
Apparently one of the missionaries in the group (the one who 1st envisioned the mission to Haiti) is also in some serious legal trouble here in the States.
::sigh::
What a mess...I'm mad I ever gave them the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Feb 5, 2010 1:27:44 GMT -5
With all that is going on with human trafficking why on Earth did they think they'd be able to get away with this? Charge these fools like any one else.
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Post by Julie Art on Feb 5, 2010 9:58:34 GMT -5
What Bun said. I hope they go to jail for the maxium time allowed for this croms.
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