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Post by Oldskool on Oct 30, 2009 23:37:02 GMT -5
Well, you guys, I went to Donnie Wade's Wake on Friday night. He was dressed in a brown suit and a Llght blue shirt. He looked really good. He actually looked like all the pictures I had seen of him. His family was wearing white t-shirts with his picture on the front. Lots and lots of people. Not even standing room.
A minister from his church prayed and spoke about his spirituality. He said that Donnie had posted on his facebook page how he was believing that God was with him during his trials and how he was praying for those who were trying to hurt him.
Donnie seemed to be a special person to all he came in contact with. He was a member of all kinds of organizations. People were about to give all kinds of memories so I had to leave.
Since he and I were both at Homecoming 2009 celebrating at PV, I felt a kindred spirit with him. (That and the other reason). I felt like I knew him. I felt like we had crossed paths and didn't know it. I know were in the same vicinity....we had to be.
The minister also spoke about Donnie still being a help to others even after death. It was very well attended and very spiritual. Donnie was also a member of the Praise team and he always helped out when he was in town.
I decided not to go to the funeral tomorrow. There will not be a dry eye in the house. I guarantee it. This young man was special and so many people loved him. He will truly be missed.
Rest in Peace Donnie "Dawise" Wade II
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Post by peppermint on Oct 31, 2009 8:45:01 GMT -5
Thank you for bringing the human side of hazing deaths to the forefront. The individuals who lose their lives are not mere headlines or people who "should haven't have let it happen."
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Post by 123Diva on Oct 31, 2009 8:49:30 GMT -5
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Post by Bunny Hop on Oct 31, 2009 10:53:26 GMT -5
It's always sad to lose people so young. I never knew any of the people that died while I was n school but you still feel it. I hope his family (all of them) find some peace in knowing that he meant so much to so many.  |
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 31, 2009 14:34:13 GMT -5
Such a sad situation.
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Post by Southie on Oct 31, 2009 18:31:55 GMT -5
Again, a very sad situation.
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Post by Troopa1911 on Nov 1, 2009 13:02:38 GMT -5
May strength be with his family...the strength that only the Lord can provide.
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Post by FatalDST on Nov 3, 2009 16:21:31 GMT -5
Very said. Has anything been concluded yet?
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Nov 4, 2009 9:53:38 GMT -5
Were there any Sigmas (wearing pins or other para) at the funeral?
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Post by Oldskool on Nov 4, 2009 10:05:17 GMT -5
Were there any Sigmas (wearing pins or other para) at the funeral? |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Nov 4, 2009 12:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by Oldskool on Nov 4, 2009 15:23:36 GMT -5
WOW! And the comments.  |
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Post by peppermint on Nov 5, 2009 1:11:31 GMT -5
Yeah some of the comments are out there. I think people are missing the point of the amount of money. Realistically, his family knows they aren't going to get $97 million. The goal is to bankrupt the organization and send a message about hazing. I'm confused by the people who kept saying "it's not a corporation" or "it's not a business."
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Post by Dasani on Nov 5, 2009 10:47:07 GMT -5
This is so sad. Prays go out to his fam. Those comments hold a certain level of ignorance.
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Post by Robelite on Nov 5, 2009 11:21:33 GMT -5
OMGosh!!  The sheer ignorance of some of those folks who commented is amazing!! No wonder we have this kind of isht going on....some folks still will do and say anything to justify what is so blatently WRONG...furck the lawsuits, etc.!! It really makes me sad for some of our people! We've got a looooooooong way to go!!  |
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Post by Comedy on Nov 8, 2009 14:28:02 GMT -5
Very true, they might not have 97 million in cash, but they have a house called HQ and a credit union with assets. If the KKK can lose their house so can a bglo. Yeah some of the comments are out there. I think people are missing the point of the amount of money. Realistically, his family knows they aren't going to get $97 million. The goal is to bankrupt the organization and send a message about hazing. I'm confused by the people who kept saying "it's not a corporation" or "it's not a business." |
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Nov 9, 2009 10:06:19 GMT -5
If there are any bankruptcy attorneys on the site, keep me honest on this one.
I figure this is an attempt to force settlement. But, for the sake of argument, suppose this case goes through trial and a judgment is entered for $97MM. *just shivered at the thought* The organization can simply file Chapter 11 and “restructure” the debt. Since the org’s income is primarily through its members, a good debtor’s attorney will be able to justify eliminating all unsecured debt. The judgment entered above would be unsecured debt. So in theory, the org would be able to walk away with the cost of paying the legal fees of the trial defense and the bankruptcy proceedings.
Bankruptcy isn’t always liquidation; it may in fact be a good thing.
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Post by Comedy on Nov 9, 2009 20:55:08 GMT -5
There isn't a bankruptcy court in the USA that would allow an organization let alone a historically black organization regroup for something like this. If there are any bankruptcy attorneys on the site, keep me honest on this one. I figure this is an attempt to force settlement. But, for the sake of argument, suppose this case goes through trial and a judgment is entered for $97MM. *just shivered at the thought* The organization can simply file Chapter 11 and “restructure” the debt. Since the org’s income is primarily through its members, a good debtor’s attorney will be able to justify eliminating all unsecured debt. The judgment entered above would be unsecured debt. So in theory, the org would be able to walk away with the cost of paying the legal fees of the trial defense and the bankruptcy proceedings. Bankruptcy isn’t always liquidation; it may in fact be a good thing. |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 11, 2009 12:56:34 GMT -5
Someone is going to be the example and no, PBS doesn't have $97 million. They are hoping the insurance company pays up. This will drive up the rates on all of our organizations which will increase the per member premium. It will also tighten the grip of the national organization on the intake process.
Isn't this how Morris Dees and the crew down in Montgomery broke the Klan? You keep doing stupid shit...you keep getting sued. Eventually, they had to liquidate their assets including any real property, etc....
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Post by Bunny Hop on Nov 12, 2009 8:59:44 GMT -5
I think it's always funny how people say what branch, greek org, club, etc they are in and how this doesn't happen to them because off all of the things they have in place to prevent it.  I am done at them calling the family to ask if they could come but I guess folks don't see the other side. When a guy died from hazing my freshman year we went to the campus vigil. The parents came in and the mother looked really sad and the father looked pissed off. When the 2 members that kind of became "the faces" of it all got up to speak the father got up and walked out...I can still see it plain as day in my mind. Sad situation. |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 12, 2009 9:47:59 GMT -5
I agree Bunny...We are all in the same boat and when the seas get rough, we all rock together, we all get sprayed together, and when someone gets seasick, we all get thrown up on..... together. We have to realize that what happens to Phi Beta Sigma or Alpha or Omega is not isolated to just that particular organization.
Anytime a BGLO hazing incident ends in tragedy, it's fraternities and sororities in general (both PWO and BGLO) are placed under the microscope. People outside of our circles don't say, "Man, those Sigmas really haze.." or "those AKA's are trouble..." they say, "Fraternities and sororities are killing kids!"
That's when politicians get involved, hazing gets tougher sentencing, universities start distancing themselves from Greek Life and yet....we stand up and say, "Well, they had a choice....nobody told them to take that ass whoopin....they need to be suspended too!!"
**sigh**
My people....my people....
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Post by Oldskool on Nov 12, 2009 9:49:06 GMT -5
Someone is going to be the example and no, PBS doesn't have $97 million. They are hoping the insurance company pays up. This will drive up the rates on all of our organizations which will increase the per member premium. It will also tighten the grip of the national organization on the intake process.Isn't this how Morris Dees and the crew down in Montgomery broke the Klan? You keep doing stupid shit...you keep getting sued. Eventually, they had to liquidate their assets including any real property, etc....
Which will drive the knuckleheads deeper underground. They will employ from within(the chapter) who will hide all the dirt. Thus driving the chapters further the hand of the Nationals. This is the reason for the new and revitalized "Chapter Shake" |
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Post by Cambist on Nov 12, 2009 10:04:11 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it WILL drive them deeper underground. That's why organizations must be proactive in this effort.
I see it kind of like the President and his administration having control of the House and Senate but still unable to pass Health Care Reform. Why? Because they have an opposition force that is dead set on just saying no to everything the administation puts out. The only thing the Republicans will accept is the president saying, "Ok, I give up....Anybody want this job?"
I've talked to brothers in my organization about alternatives to the current process and what they come up with NEVER even comes close to anything I would be willing to stand up in court and defend.
Fact is, there is a large group of members who will not be satisfied until they can have Pledge Club, with all the trimmin's, above ground. They wont be happy until they can officially give "board meetings" and call it "aggressive tutorial session" or "woodshop" and correct a slip up in a poem by corrective "neck, back and/or chest".
These are the fringe but they are killing our org and unfortunately, they have a body willing to stand by and let them destroy at will.
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Post by Oldskool on Nov 12, 2009 10:17:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately, it WILL drive them deeper underground. That's why organizations must be proactive in this effort. I see it kind of like the President and his administration having control of the House and Senate but still unable to pass Health Care Reform. Why? Because they have an opposition force that is dead set on just saying no to everything the administation puts out. The only thing the Republicans will accept is the president saying, "Ok, I give up....Anybody want this job?" I've talked to brothers in my organization about alternatives to the current process and what they come up with NEVER even comes close to anything I would be willing to stand up in court and defend. Fact is, there is a large group of members who will not be satisfied until they can have Pledge Club, with all the trimmin's, above ground. They wont be happy until they can officially give "board meetings" and call it "aggressive tutorial session" or "woodshop" and correct a slip up in a poem by corrective "neck, back and/or chest". These are the fringe but they are killing our org and unfortunately, they have a body willing to stand by and let them destroy at will[/b][/u][/color]]
And here lies the problem......This is where the change CAN be made. These individuals need to be STRONG and self assured enough to go through the after effects of not being followers. This group needs to group exponentially fast in order to gain ground so our orgs can begin to take on a more positive status. It has to start somewhere. |
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Post by Blues Clues on Nov 16, 2009 0:19:40 GMT -5
wow...SMH...
I have heard the war stories of hazing, and wonder, if at any point, anyone has thought about their families, or the familes of others that may be affected...
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Nov 17, 2009 18:38:45 GMT -5
wow...SMH... I have heard the war stories of hazing, and wonder, if at any point, anyone has thought about their families, or the familes of others that may be affected... I think hazing and thinking are mutually exclusive. |
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