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Post by Oren Ishii on Oct 26, 2009 22:49:23 GMT -5
What up, OOA? Most of you here know that I'm associated with more than one type of GLO, (one of which is very young) so I'm fairly comfortable with new orgs integrating some of the things that we've traditionally seen as 'Black Greek.' Calls, chants and what not are a wonderful way to recognize other members & spread your fraternal spirit. BUT - When you take traditions and butcher them (with a stupid 2 min call, or line jacket covered from top to bottom in graphics), it really ticks me off. Take, for example, the following "probate" video  [it has it ALL]: How do you guys feel about this type of thing? I mean, if you're gonna do it, AT LEAST do it justice! JMHO |
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Post by **Dea** on Oct 27, 2009 1:24:34 GMT -5
1-9-87!!! 1-9-87!!!! *looks around* What? I was born in 87!!!!!!!!
Anyways.....ummm.......yea.....*puts up church finger and exits thread quietly!*
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Post by Kyng of JDs on Oct 27, 2009 6:27:05 GMT -5
meh, I've seen worse from high school orgs. I give em credit for trying.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Oct 27, 2009 7:28:58 GMT -5
What up, OOA? Most of you here know that I'm associated with more than one type of GLO, (one of which is very young) so I'm fairly comfortable with new orgs integrating some of the things that we've traditionally seen as 'Black Greek.' Calls, chants and what not are a wonderful way to recognize other members & spread your fraternal spirit. How do you guys feel about this type of thing? Not comfortable. I am fundamentally opposed to the "spread" and think that it's facilitation by BGLO members is akin to treason. I am not in favor of this type of mimicry AT ALL. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Oct 27, 2009 8:03:45 GMT -5
What up, OOA? Most of you here know that I'm associated with more than one type of GLO, (one of which is very young) so I'm fairly comfortable with new orgs integrating some of the things that we've traditionally seen as 'Black Greek.' Calls, chants and what not are a wonderful way to recognize other members & spread your fraternal spirit.
But of course I know the "Get-A-Long" Gang will be in here shortly to lecture us about how it's not about Black Greeks culture vs. Other Greeks culture...
...even though it is. |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Oct 27, 2009 8:21:20 GMT -5
lol@"hard in the paint"
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 27, 2009 10:40:58 GMT -5
What up, OOA? Most of you here know that I'm associated with more than one type of GLO, (one of which is very young) so I'm fairly comfortable with new orgs integrating some of the things that we've traditionally seen as 'Black Greek.' Calls, chants and what not are a wonderful way to recognize other members & spread your fraternal spirit.
But of course I know the "Get-A-Long" Gang will be in here shortly to lecture us about how it's not about Black Greeks culture vs. Other Greeks culture...
...even though it is. @ underlined part. But I agree with the majority here, this is too much immation to me, and they didn't even do it justice. But since when has black culture not had any type of influnece on other culture? This was a hot mess though  |
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Post by Robelite on Oct 27, 2009 10:58:24 GMT -5
Yeah but to your point they work better when they're your OWN calls and chants (and then done with some sort of enthusiam - Pan Hell or not, that's one of the weakest strolls I have seen in my life - no enthusiasm, no precision, no purpose. And I can't even say that's just how some Latino orgs roll because you can youtube many examples of them going "hard in the paint" for their org. This just wasn't one of those examples)
But of course I know the "Get-A-Long" Gang will be in here shortly to lecture us about how it's not about Black Greeks culture vs. Other Greeks culture...
...even though it is. @ underlined part. But I agree with the majority here, this is too much immation to me, and they didn't even do it justice. But since when has black culture not had any type of influnece on other culture? This was a hot mess though  I'm sorry I couldn't resist! That SNL skit cracks me up just thinkin' about it! ;D |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Oct 27, 2009 11:02:13 GMT -5
^^^^hook a sista up with a character name or sumthin I can google!
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Post by Robelite on Oct 27, 2009 11:14:14 GMT -5
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Post by Robelite on Oct 27, 2009 11:19:38 GMT -5
They kinda look like a line of wanna-be Rockettes!! I had to LOL @ them "spittin" some history in the beginning. Ain't that what we do at our probate shows these days? Just art imitating life I guess.  I guess one prerequisite they had for that org was that you must have a pair of nice legs! They all got that, if they ain't got nothing else! That bowlegged one (2nd from the right) was kinda tight!! |
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Post by T-Rex91 on Oct 27, 2009 11:31:48 GMT -5
Thanks! Will watch tonight. Job has Hulu blocked  |
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Post by Oren Ishii on Oct 27, 2009 12:09:04 GMT -5
They kinda look like a line of wanna-be Rockettes!! I had to LOL @ them "spittin" some history in the beginning. *****I'mma beat you for this! LOL***** I guess one prerequisite they had for that org was that you must have a pair of nice legs! They all got that, if they ain't got nothing else! That bowlegged one (2nd from the right) was kinda tight!! *****Snatches Bro. Robe up & slaps some sense into him. Le's not get off topic, Bruh.  LOL***** |
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Post by Oren Ishii on Oct 27, 2009 12:22:17 GMT -5
I'm kinda torn as to the spread... *DISCLAIMER: This post will contain some things that will be unpopular opinions. You'll be aight. Besides, I fully support finding a home that reflects your values. Whatever you CHOSE to pledge (or join :-|) should make you proud.* Here's the thing - When new orgs of US step, stroll, etc. it doesn't bother me. When OTHERS do it, well... I saw something not too long ago and was like "NPC sororities have handsigns now? Dang." I can't remember which org, but at least one has 'created' a handsign in recent years. Most of the National ones have passed their Centennial. You're JUST now coming up with this idea? SOME of the Latino/Asian special interest orgs need to pump their brakes IMO. If your org is specifically about your culture, shouldn't you focus on that instead of emulating us? Doing a stroll to music en Espanol doesn't cut it. If you're culturally based, exhibit YOUR culture. If you wanted to act/perform/rep like a Black Greek, you should've pledged one of our orgs. Others have. Just a thought. |
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Post by Robelite on Oct 27, 2009 12:42:53 GMT -5
They kinda look like a line of wanna-be Rockettes!! I had to LOL @ them "spittin" some history in the beginning. *****I'mma beat you for this! LOL***** I guess one prerequisite they had for that org was that you must have a pair of nice legs! They all got that, if they ain't got nothing else! That bowlegged one (2nd from the right) was kinda tight!! *****Snatches Bro. Robe up & slaps some sense into him. Le's not get off topic, Bruh. LOL***** |
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Post by Bunny Hop on Oct 27, 2009 13:07:03 GMT -5
Hmm...I wonder if I'm apart of the "Get-Along-Gang" LOL
Either way I'm at the point where I don't care too much about who does what. What some other org does or doesn't do won't change one thing about what I do in regards to my sorority. I've heard it all 10 times over...afterall that's how I found Stophazing in the first place.
As far their folks in the video the stroll sucked...period. They have no rhythm, it was sloppy and they look bored.
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Post by Bathroom Model on Oct 27, 2009 13:40:37 GMT -5
I'm kinda torn as to the spread... *DISCLAIMER: This post will contain some things that will be unpopular opinions. You'll be aight. Besides, I fully support finding a home that reflects your values. Whatever you CHOSE to pledge (or join :-|) should make you proud.* Here's the thing - When new orgs of US step, stroll, etc. it doesn't bother me. When OTHERS do it, well... I saw something not too long ago and was like "NPC sororities have handsigns now? Dang." I can't remember which org, but at least one has 'created' a handsign in recent years. Most of the National ones have passed their Centennial. You're JUST now coming up with this idea? SOME of the Latino/Asian special interest orgs need to pump their brakes IMO. If your org is specifically about your culture, shouldn't you focus on that instead of emulating us? Doing a stroll to music en Espanol doesn't cut it. If you're culturally based, exhibit YOUR culture. If you wanted to act/perform/rep like a Black Greek, you should've pledged one of our orgs. Others have. Just a thought. I'm feeling you on these. |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Oct 27, 2009 14:16:34 GMT -5
Isnt dancing apart of Spanish Culture???
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 27, 2009 15:00:23 GMT -5
Isnt dancing apart of Spanish Culture??? Yes, but I think they are referring to specific Hispanic dances, like the Tango, etc. |
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 27, 2009 15:12:39 GMT -5
Here are some example of the Latin Greek orgs "stepping" Sigma Lambda Gamma Same sorority, different chapter, at a yard show Another probate, this one is Hispanic And another e-probate, same org |
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Post by Bunny Hop on Oct 27, 2009 15:16:07 GMT -5
Isnt dancing apart of Spanish Culture??? there's some form of dancing in every culture but you know we Black folks think we started everything |
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Post by ReignMan19 on Oct 27, 2009 15:19:53 GMT -5
All i got to say is Theta Nu Xi at Florida State
Yes Jesus!!!!!!
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Post by Oren Ishii on Oct 27, 2009 15:28:54 GMT -5
Hold up, Soror Julie-
What was that poem about "God said, I"ll Make a Woman" in the 2nd video? Am I tripping?
Reign, you know strolling and traditional cultural dance are 2 totally different things
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 27, 2009 17:57:53 GMT -5
I didn't make it that far LeMuse will have to go back and check.
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Post by Bathroom Model on Oct 27, 2009 18:17:58 GMT -5
I'm so with le muse on this. I mean I know we borrowed the idea from the "others' but look at us now and see how different our "greek" is from their "greek"
Maybe if will take them time to create their own traditions. Cause those sigma lambda gamma probate to the ignorant look like some real light skin akas in all that pink.
Leaning back and being extra on the incorporated.
It time to find YOUR roots.
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Post by Julie Art on Oct 28, 2009 9:36:51 GMT -5
I'm so with le muse on this. I mean I know we borrowed the idea from the "others' but look at us now and see how different our "greek" is from their "greek" Maybe if will take them time to create their own traditions. Cause those sigma lambda gamma probate to the ignorant look like some real light skin akas in all that pink.Leaning back and being extra on the incorporated. It time to find YOUR roots. They look like NO sucha' thang! |
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Post by LejaOMG on Oct 28, 2009 10:37:25 GMT -5
LoL @ Juicy gettin hype. When I was in school the LPs were kinda like BGLO spin-offs, but it was no beef, because they admitted it. At their interest meetings, they talked about their history and matter-of-factly stated that "we desired a sisterhood similar to the African American sororities that existed at X university at the time." Shoot, that's our story too. They stepped, strolled, called and carried on, but they greeted in Spanish, and had little cultural particulars that made it seem less like biting. Now, I remember going to a Chi Upsilon Sigma probate and having an attitude because I saw them re-create some of "our" things that I don't believe they truly knew the history of, but...many of US don't even know why we do what we do. My opinion on this has definitely shifted as I've gotten older. In UG, I was very protective of BGLO culture (for my own reasons) and didn't even like the others stepping. Now, I say live and let live.
And for the record, that show was still garbage.
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Post by Oren Ishii on Oct 28, 2009 15:45:51 GMT -5
LOL @ Glamour (you trippin!) LOL even harder ! Julie's response (please let her know!) *throws death stars @ Leja for last statement* -Why is garbage so popular as a description on the board these days?- Wait, aren't these your Greek cousins, L? |
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Post by Bathroom Model on Oct 28, 2009 15:47:13 GMT -5
LOL @ Glamour (you trippin!) LOL even harder ! Julie's response (please let her know!) *throws death stars @ Leja for last statement* -Why is garbage so popular as a description on the board these days?- Wait, aren't these your Greek cousins, L? yea but all jokes aside aren't they?? |
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Post by LejaOMG on Oct 28, 2009 16:10:16 GMT -5
Wait, aren't these your Greek cousins, L? yea but all jokes aside aren't they?? First of all, HELL NAH. There really isn't a second of all, I just wanted it to be clear that I don't have any such thing as a "cousin" regardless of a particular sorority, their unofficial 'brother' fraternity and the former affiliation of one of its founders. Madeupazzness. |
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@ underlined part. But I agree with the majority here, this is too much immation to me, and they didn't even do it justice. But since when has black culture not had any type of influnece on other culture?
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