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Post by No Screen Name on Aug 23, 2009 0:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by Bunny Hop on Aug 23, 2009 7:18:16 GMT -5
Interesting...I'd like to see it. I think we (Black folks) do a good job of separating ourselves and putting down each other but apparently it's ok because we're all Black We live in glass house and like to throw a lot of dayum rocks.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 23, 2009 21:12:06 GMT -5
Not black eh? How's the saying go? It's not what they call you it's what you answer to.
Here's my quick thought - you don't have to be fully black to identify as black (because in truth none of us ARE unmixed. We all have some mixture). If the respondents in this documentary don't want to be identified as black (or white) - I think that's their right (I think that's anybody's right) - just pick one jersey and play with that team.
If that team is Team Bi-racial - so be it.
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Post by Oldskool on Aug 24, 2009 2:21:22 GMT -5
I love the kid who said, " If some people don't like you just ind somebody who does." Now that' is saying something. There is always someone who you can identify with who will accept you for who you are no matter the color of your skin.
My girlfriend is clearly a mixed child. She doesn't like to speak about it but I know it has bothered her. She has raised her kids as black children, but to associate with people of like minds. Like color doesn't always equal like minds.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 24, 2009 7:54:22 GMT -5
I love the kid who said, " If some people don't like you just ind somebody who does." Now that' is saying something. There is always someone who you can identify with who will accept you for who you are no matter the color of your skin.
My girlfriend is clearly a mixed child. She doesn't like to speak about it but I know it has bothered her. She has raised her kids as black children, but to associate with people of like minds. Like color doesn't always equal like minds. So this is an interesting post - especially because not too long ago there was a discussion about whether or not black people were more accepting of outsiders than others. Stories like this, and examples like this is what I base my opinion that in America we are typically the inclusive culture.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 8:41:09 GMT -5
I would agree. I have a few biracial siblings and quite a few biracial family members (my fam is down for the swirl hardcore) and all of them identify themselves as being African American (even the ones with white dads) and never really had any identy issues.. so I never really got the whole "tragic mulatto" sydrome because I just assumed most consider themselves black
If you notice the ones who recognize they are bi-racial but consider themselves black are more well adjusted i.e..Halle (minus dude issues) , Alicia, Barack, Tia & Tamera
Those who try to be something different are all screwy Mariah and the random other ones
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 8:42:23 GMT -5
sheltered comment:
Until I started reading message boards I didn't know Blacks had issues with bi-racials identifying themselves as AA
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 24, 2009 8:52:17 GMT -5
sheltered comment: Until I started reading message boards I didn't know Blacks had issues with bi-racials identifying themselves as AA Dude I didn't either. I have never witnessed it. I realize though that some phenomena are regional. Where I'm from, if you were mixed, and you identified as black, you were black.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 9:03:43 GMT -5
Yeah where I'm from the one drop rule is in full effect and there is never a second thought about it..
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 24, 2009 9:10:00 GMT -5
I would agree. I have a few biracial siblings and quite a few biracial family members (my fam is down for the swirl hardcore) and all of them identify themselves as being African American (even the ones with white dads) and never really had any identy issues.. so I never really got the whole "tragic mulatto" sydrome because I just assumed most consider themselves black If you notice the ones who recognize they are bi-racial but consider themselves black are more well adjusted i.e..Halle (minus dude issues) , Alicia, Barack, Tia & Tamera Those who try to be something different are all screwy Mariah and the random other ones That's interesting. I guess our society, just by sheer social gravitational pull, forces you to identify with one group or another and attempting to ride the fence doesn't work. I think Mariah's 1 video for BET another video for MTV was a disaster and perhaps emblematic of her trying to be 2 things at one time.
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Post by LejaOMG on Aug 24, 2009 9:11:09 GMT -5
my cousins (who are mixed differently than I...and who present less "Black" phenotypes) have gotten clowned for identifying as African American where they grew up in Tennessee
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 9:16:01 GMT -5
my cousins (who are mixed differently than I...and who present less "Black" phenotypes) have gotten clowned for identifying as African American where they grew up in Tennessee What is exactly said to them?? I find this weird. Sidenote: Does anyone remember when we almost recruited Jessica Alba? When she first came out it was rumored that she was black and Cubano (but she is actually white and cubano) I started seeing Jet magazine list her in the back where it has the black tv listing when Dark Angel began but then they stopped LOL
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Post by 123Diva on Aug 24, 2009 9:21:57 GMT -5
sheltered comment: Until I started reading message boards I didn't know Blacks had issues with bi-racials identifying themselves as AA Basically.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 24, 2009 9:39:25 GMT -5
my cousins (who are mixed differently than I...and who present less "Black" phenotypes) have gotten clowned for identifying as African American where they grew up in Tennessee What is exactly said to them?? I find this weird. Sidenote: Does anyone remember when we almost recruited Jessica Alba? When she first came out it was rumored that she was black and Cubano (but she is actually white and cubano) I started seeing Jet magazine list her in the back where it has the black tv listing when Dark Angel began but then they stopped LOL What? We almost turned her? Dammit we almost had her.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 9:47:39 GMT -5
Yep she was already on the roster.. but she got "whited out" - literally and figuratively
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Post by DamieQue™ on Aug 24, 2009 9:50:06 GMT -5
And WHERE, I ask was the NAACP when all this was going on. Where?
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 9:55:39 GMT -5
And WHERE, I ask was the NAACP when all this was going on. Where? I think it was her choice. She quickly corrected the rumors about her ethnicity.... well right after she got that check for Honey.
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Post by Cambist on Aug 24, 2009 9:56:04 GMT -5
I, like Reign, have several bi-racial cousins and family members (we hard core too) LOL!
My cousins MOSTLY identify as Black although they recognize the benefits of being bi-racial. For instance, my neice decided that she would apply for a minority scholarship to a HBCU because she is half white. She said that she would MAKE them prove that she wasn't. The application has 5 choices, White, Black (AA), Latino, Asian, Other.....
She chose Black, White AND Other.... If the application made her choose she chose white.
Now granted, she's just being an asshole like her uncle but she says if the country wants to chop us up into little segments and yet leave me out...i'll get in where I fit in.....
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 10:17:10 GMT -5
^^ smart idea...
My two biracial sisters have both had kids and I forget to disclaimer when I show pics of my nieces and nephews. People are usually like j"Who are those spanish kids??" lol
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Post by LejaOMG on Aug 24, 2009 10:20:08 GMT -5
my cousins (who are mixed differently than I...and who present less "Black" phenotypes) have gotten clowned for identifying as African American where they grew up in Tennessee What is exactly said to them?? I find this weird. As kids, their black neighbors/classmates called them "zebras" and "halfbreeds" (and you know how kids have a way of making everything derogatory) and they also caught the brunt of whatever caucasian racial epithets there were. The worst ish was they lived with their white father and their white stepmother, so as a family unit, they were considered "the white folks on the block." I don't know how white people treated them.
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Post by ReignMan19 on Aug 24, 2009 10:27:48 GMT -5
thats unfortunate... people can be so retarded sometime
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Post by 123Diva on Aug 24, 2009 10:40:44 GMT -5
thats unfortunate... people can be so retarded sometime Indeed.
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Post by Warner Fite on Aug 31, 2009 10:26:24 GMT -5
<----techinically,biracial
<----Adopted by African-American parents at 1 week old.
<----Considers himself African-American, not biracial
Though I do agree that if you're white or black biological parent is active in your life, you should acknowledge them and claiming yourself as bi-racial is the best way to do that.
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Post by No Screen Name on Aug 31, 2009 12:13:07 GMT -5
<----techinically,biracial <----Adopted by African-American parents at 1 week old. <----Considers himself African-American, not biracial Though I do agree that if you're white or black biological parent is active in your life, you should acknowledge them and claiming yourself as bi-racial is the best way to do that. Wow, I never knew that EPUN!
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Post by Warner Fite on Aug 31, 2009 15:12:58 GMT -5
yep, the product of a bi-racial booty call.
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Post by T-Rex91 on Sept 1, 2009 19:03:59 GMT -5
I don't see how some of these people could idenitfy as anything else. You're constantly told you're not Black enough, or White enough......either choice has backlash. Creating your own label, regardless of the one that society puts on you, seems to be the only plausible option.
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Post by BKupInHere on Sept 3, 2009 10:28:17 GMT -5
my cousins (who are mixed differently than I...and who present less "Black" phenotypes) have gotten clowned for identifying as African American where they grew up in Tennessee What is exactly said to them?? I find this weird. Sidenote: Does anyone remember when we almost recruited Jessica Alba? When she first came out it was rumored that she was black and Cubano (but she is actually white and cubano) I started seeing Jet magazine list her in the back where it has the black tv listing when Dark Angel began but then they stopped LOL But her baby has a Black Grandparent! Her hubby's Dad is Michael Warren,UCLA Basketball star & actor on "Hill St. Blues".
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Post by BKupInHere on Sept 3, 2009 10:29:43 GMT -5
yep, the product of a bi-racial booty call. Well your a fine product of a booty call! Indeed!
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Post by Chal™ on Sept 14, 2009 16:05:22 GMT -5
sadly, many people don't know how to identify themselves. Some actually choose to identify as black because they were raised black. My parents brought us up as "all of the above".
@ Cam. lol @ your niece, but i don't blame her. During my senior year in high school, I applied and was denied for a scholarship that i really wanted because it was for Asian students. When my Gan Ganny got through with those people, they were trying to throw the money at me. I mean really, what do you say to a little bitty short Japanese lady who threatenes to call the NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson on you?
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Post by LejaOMG on Sept 14, 2009 16:26:37 GMT -5
I mean really, what do you say to a little bitty short Japanese lady who threatenes to call the NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson on you? LoL. Psyche nah, what do you say? Shoot.
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