The New World Order

[water]

Those videos are Raw uncut straight from the Horses Mouth...

Henry Kissinger has much pull in the New World Order

[LogAKAlly <3'n Keef]

OK Hyp - I got too lazy to type, LOL.

[Noble Work]

Mar 7, 2009 19:09:30 GMT -5 THE emPRISS said:

Here's an interesting link:

educate-yourself.org/nwo/

ok...ok..ok. I viewed the link and clicked on some extra tabs as well cause I know what is was leading to. I clicked on the tab that had the names to these "World Order groups". I begin to read the one about Freemasonry. Unfortunately, I had to stop reading at the beginning of the fourth paragraph because the information provided in that particular tab/sub group is completely false.

WE are NOT trying to take over this world. We are NOT a secret society.

I wish people would stop thinking that the "higher up" in Masonry you go then the more knowledge you have concerning "taking over the world". Just because some one is a 32 degree Mason that does not mean he is richer and more knowledgeable than a 3rd degree mason.

You can have a 32 degree mason who is a janitor in a high school (Not putting this occupation down ONE bit) and have a 3rd degree mason who is a CEO of let saayyyy IBM. They are still brothers and on the same level in the lodge.

The article said that basically we get the "hook up" as far career and social wise......lol. If that's the case then I should be making six figures...RIGHT NOW.....LOL. and should be running around with my famous/celebrity Brothers making it Rain.....lol

(going off an a tangent)

[huey]

water shut the fuck up already

[Kryptik]

Mar 10, 2009 14:35:17 GMT -5 Noble Work said:

Mar 7, 2009 19:09:30 GMT -5 THE emPRISS said:

Here's an interesting link:

educate-yourself.org/nwo/

ok...ok..ok. I viewed the link and clicked on some extra tabs as well cause I know what is was leading to. I clicked on the tab that had the names to these "World Order groups". I begin to read the one about Freemasonry. Unfortunately, I had to stop reading at the beginning of the fourth paragraph because the information provided in that particular tab/sub group is completely false.

WE are NOT trying to take over this world. We are NOT a secret society.

I wish people would stop thinking that the "higher up" in Masonry you go then the more knowledge you have concerning "taking over the world". Just because some one is a 32 degree Mason that does not mean he is richer and more knowledgeable than a 3rd degree mason.

You can have a 32 degree mason who is a janitor in a high school (Not putting this occupation down ONE bit) and have a 3rd degree mason who is a CEO of let saayyyy IBM. They are still brothers and on the same level in the lodge.

The article said that basically we get the "hook up" as far career and social wise......lol. If that's the case then I should be making six figures...RIGHT NOW.....LOL. and should be running around with my famous/celebrity Brothers making it Rain.....lol

(going off an a tangent)

<--- Gives Work2 the super secret NWO sign...

<---Rubs hands together and laughing like Dr. Evil...

Yes... we must continue to to deny the true power we hold...

mwuhahaha...

[THE emPRISS]

Mar 10, 2009 14:35:17 GMT -5 Noble Work said:

Mar 7, 2009 19:09:30 GMT -5 THE emPRISS said:

Here's an interesting link:

educate-yourself.org/nwo/

ok...ok..ok. I viewed the link and clicked on some extra tabs as well cause I know what is was leading to. I clicked on the tab that had the names to these "World Order groups". I begin to read the one about Freemasonry. Unfortunately, I had to stop reading at the beginning of the fourth paragraph because the information provided in that particular tab/sub group is completely false.

WE are NOT trying to take over this world. We are NOT a secret society.

I wish people would stop thinking that the "higher up" in Masonry you go then the more knowledge you have concerning "taking over the world". Just because some one is a 32 degree Mason that does not mean he is richer and more knowledgeable than a 3rd degree mason.

You can have a 32 degree mason who is a janitor in a high school (Not putting this occupation down ONE bit) and have a 3rd degree mason who is a CEO of let saayyyy IBM. They are still brothers and on the same level in the lodge.

The article said that basically we get the "hook up" as far career and social wise......lol. If that's the case then I should be making six figures...RIGHT NOW.....LOL. and should be running around with my famous/celebrity Brothers making it Rain.....lol

(going off an a tangent)

LOL...I didnt say it was TRUE ...I said it was INTERESTING . It also mentions undergroudn cities and aliens (although Ive been told that there is an underground "city" in DC and around the Pentagon...with a train system, shops etc...the Congressmen, President, and other high ranking folk use the trolley to go back and forth from the White House to the Capital, Pentagon etc...I digresss)

I dont agree that you dont receive any privileges or hook ups by membership. If there were NO benefits, I doubt there'd be too many members. Thats not even believable, workn2b, sorry. There are plenty of Masons who have alluded to the perks of being a Mason. And just like being greek, you can get preferential treatment based on org or even based on being greek if you know the right greeks in the right places. Ive gotten ALL of my post grad jobs based off who I know and two of the three had to do with my greek affiliation. So I dont buy that. If you arent seeing the perks of membership, you are in the wrong place or dealing with people who have no influence. Hard pill to swallow but true.

As for the rest of the freemasonary piece... to play debil's advocate ....word is that there is a difference b/n the "white" masons and PHA...so, if there is ANY truth to that, could it be, just could it be possible that the PHA arent privy to everything the others Rites (or what have you) are? It would makes sense that this "power" structure which steams from bloodlines and the "old countries" would exclude black people. So maybe PHA and black folks are not contemplated as a powerhouse in this NWO. If you analyze the highest ranked folk in our society, they do belong to secret societies and fraternal organizations. Even still there are secret orgs that we dont even KNOW about. I.e the Skull & Bones. I remember always knowing when they inducted people b/c they'd tag the campus but nobody ever knows who the actual members are and they never tell. Thats the difference with real power and money. Those who have it, dont care to flaunt it. You know they are out there but you have no idea who they are. Prime example in contrast: BGLO members are quick to let everyone and their mamas in and let everyone and their mama know who they are. That's not how powerful orgs work. Then look at Jay Z...you'd have to be blind not to know he was a Mason b/c he flaunts and hints at it every chance he gets and its OBVIOUS (or he is straight fronting). I wont even go into detail about that though. If you are planning to take over the world, you cant have people with diarrhea of the mouth or little to lose in the driver's seat.

Moreover, everything is on a need to know basis so if you dont know, then someone decided that you dont need to know so one cant really say something ISNT true just b/c they dont know or havent been privy to the info for themselves. Do you really think those who are involved in the NWO are going to put it out there and ask for volunteers? Doubtful. Just a thought.

[Kryptik]

JAY Z... Now I hadn't heard that one but who knows.

Anyway, I figured I would attempt to give a little info on the NWO thing and its link to masonry, at least as I have understood it. Now, I will start by saying that I am kind of lazy, and I can't type very well, and I would prefer not to copy and paste a bunch of info from the internet, so just bear with me if I don't include a lot of exact dates or misspell some names .


The New World Order is an idea that most associate with a "secret" organization called the "Illuminati". This now "defunct??" group was started back in the late 1700's or so (most say 1776... interesting coincidence, aye? And one of the reasons for the conspiracy theories I believe.) by a man named Adam Weishaupt and most refer to this particular group as the Bavarian Illuminati. So the theory goes that Weishaupt envisioned his organization as being only for the most "enlightened" men that would be destined to bring about a "new" way of doing things, politically, financially,etc... but to do this he knew that his organization would have to have a broad scope of influence. He decided that the best way to extend this influence would be to "infiltrate" the various organizations of which the people usually considered having the most influence were members (Including The Masonic Lodge).

After attempting his Master Plan, some suggest that knowledge of this somehow got out... I have seen and heard references to letters that were discovered in Europe and what was the U.S. at the time, that were found by patriots who rallied to stop his Master Plan, thus ending the Bavarian Illuminati... or did they, hmmm?

Anyways this brings us to a point in early U.S. history, where different political views were being formed, and of course everyone felt that their clique was better than the others. Well needless to say, at some point these different "cliques" began to strongly disagree. So what ultimately happened was that one of these cliques used a "mysterious" event, that many contributed to masons, whether right or wrong, along with the aforementioned "knowledge" of Weishaupts plan to begin defaming other political parties that had members that openly and proudly professed their masonic membership. This lead to an actual new, but minor, political party in our nation... The Anti-Masonic Party. (Now who could keep up back then... Whigs, Republicans, Democrats... Republicans that became the new Democrats! )

This Anti-Masonic Party then became the source of most Masonic Conspiracy Theories we here today. The sole principle of this party was to defame masonry and its members... and it worked! Many masons were forced to renounce their membership and disavow the organization, particularly if they held or ever wished to hold any type of public office. This is when masons in the U.S. began to gain the whole moniker of being "Secret".

Now, as for today, many believe that there still exist some New World Order, or cabal of elite people controlling things from behind the scenes... is this possible? Yes! I think so... Is it "The Masons"? No! Could these people happen to be masons... surely, and doctors, lawyers, politicians, news anchors/or the people that control the news, etc...

Try looking at the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergs, or the Council on Foreign Relations... If there is a New World Order going down, this is where the conspiracy theorist have the most fun! And these guys are controlling the World, right in front of our eyes...


Oh well... just my 2 cents! And I by no means wish to imply this is anything but my opinion... Or is it?

[Noble Work]

Nooo Priss I didn't aim that directly at you. I get this "taking over the world" type stuff all the time. So don't think I singled you out Prissy.

Priss are you saying that White Masons in this or in other countries KNOW about the "taking over the world" thing and that Black Masons don't? Please explain cause that through me. And are you saying that other important (money and power) Masons have NOT told me that I am part of a plot to take over the world?

To answer your question, Yes there is a difference between white masons and black masons and the answer is skin color. We have the good ole boy mentality in Freemasonry too. A lot of white masons don't think we should be masons first off. Some of them are straight don't like black people and WILL not sit in lodge with us. Some of there Grand lodges will not recognize PHA masonry but some will. That's funny because England recognizes PHA masonry.The problem lies in the South. But the white masons knowing about a NWO and the PHA lodges NOT knowing about it is unthinkable....lol

You used the term PHA which is my bloodline and we have a lot more things we need to pay attention to like the countless of other Black orgs who claim that they are masonic. I'm NOT faulting the other mason himself or personally, it has to do with what he has joined unknowingly. A lot of people want to lump us (black lodges) into one big affiliation and that's not so. You have PHA and PHO there's a big difference and that's what we are up against (But this is another topic)..lol

But, Jay Z? really? Well I've heard that before in my circles along with other forums I'm on. Jay Z is NOT a Mason, at least when we were talking/discussing it (Yes, we checked...lol). I'm not saying he straight fronting (and I hope he ain't either) but some things people say in records, speeches etc are real general in terms. And people hear some type of words and think it's Masonic and it's not. Enlightened can be used with any org....from Bglo's to church. But I have to ask....Why do you think J is a Mason? How does he flaunt and hint? Now if you would of said Chris Tucker or TI (I think) is a Mason then you would of been on target.

[No Screen Name]

I'm coming to this post late. But the whole "cashless" society and chips aren't some "Pie in the Sky" thing that's going to happen in 50--or even 20--years. It's already happening. Some resorts even will chip you to put drinks and stuff on your credit card.

Please check out this website: www.spychips.com I read the book, and it was an eye-opener.

[LogAKAlly <3'n Keef]

Mar 11, 2009 11:00:02 GMT -5 No Screen Name said:

I'm coming to this post late. But the whole "cashless" society and chips aren't some "Pie in the Sky" thing that's going to happen in 50--or even 20--years. It's already happening. Some resorts even will chip you to put drinks and stuff on your credit card.

Please check out this website: www.spychips.com I read the book, and it was an eye-opener.

I mentioned this in my post.

You ever see those Visa commercials that make cash annoying/outdated.

My cat is chipped. A baby has already been chipped.

In this time of heightend fears, Amber Alerts, human trafficing, pedophiles kidnapping, custody battles, etc. - they won't have to force anyone to chip their babies --- you'll sign up for it.

It's a cohersion tactic.

1. Convince you there's a need
2. Prove the product is safe/harmless
3. Instill paranoia

You'll give up your freedom for your safety.

2 words.

Patriot Act.

[water]

[Noble Work]

Mar 11, 2009 11:08:05 GMT -5 LogAKAlly <3'n Keef said:

Mar 11, 2009 11:00:02 GMT -5 No Screen Name said:

I'm coming to this post late. But the whole "cashless" society and chips aren't some "Pie in the Sky" thing that's going to happen in 50--or even 20--years. It's already happening. Some resorts even will chip you to put drinks and stuff on your credit card.

Please check out this website: www.spychips.com I read the book, and it was an eye-opener.

I mentioned this in my post.

You ever see those Visa commercials that make cash annoying/outdated.

My cat is chipped. A baby has already been chipped.

In this time of heightend fears, Amber Alerts, human trafficing, pedophiles kidnapping, custody battles, etc. - they won't have to force anyone to chip their babies --- you'll sign up for it.

It's a cohersion tactic.

1. Convince you there's a need
2. Prove the product is safe/harmless
3. Instill paranoia

You'll give up your freedom for your safety.

2 words.

Patriot Act.

LOLOL LOG in a funny way you just described the reasoning for birth control pills...

1. Convince you there's a need [too many black people being born]
2. Prove the product is safe/harmless [tested on chimps, rats and 10% out of 100 people blah blah blah]
3. Instill paranoia [our kids are starting to have sex at an earlier age this generation so let's go get you on the pill so you won't get preggers]

[Noble Work]

I feel ya'll on this chip thing. But that certainly don't rule out Masons if it were to happen. Now if such a thing did get worst than it already is then it will be the people with Power who will not get a chip. The power player stopped using Cash a looooooooong time ago.

[THE emPRISS]

Mar 11, 2009 10:41:31 GMT -5 Noble Work said:

Nooo Priss I didn't aim that directly at you. I get this "taking over the world" type stuff all the time. So don't think I singled you out Prissy.

Priss are you saying that White Masons in this or in other countries KNOW about the "taking over the world" thing and that Black Masons don't? Please explain cause that through me. And are you saying that other important (money and power) Masons have NOT told me that I am part of a plot to take over the world?

To answer your question, Yes there is a difference between white masons and black masons and the answer is skin color. We have the good ole boy mentality in Freemasonry too. A lot of white masons don't think we should be masons first off. Some of them are straight don't like black people and WILL not sit in lodge with us. Some of there Grand lodges will not recognize PHA masonry but some will. That's funny because England recognizes PHA masonry.The problem lies in the South. But the white masons knowing about a NWO and the PHA lodges NOT knowing about it is unthinkable....lol

You used the term PHA which is my bloodline and we have a lot more things we need to pay attention to like the countless of other Black orgs who claim that they are masonic. I'm NOT faulting the other mason himself or personally, it has to do with what he has joined unknowingly. A lot of people want to lump us (black lodges) into one big affiliation and that's not so. You have PHA and PHO there's a big difference and that's what we are up against (But this is another topic)..lol

But, Jay Z? really? Well I've heard that before in my circles along with other forums I'm on. Jay Z is NOT a Mason, at least when we were talking/discussing it (Yes, we checked...lol). I'm not saying he straight fronting (and I hope he ain't either) but some things people say in records, speeches etc are real general in terms. And people hear some type of words and think it's Masonic and it's not. Enlightened can be used with any org....from Bglo's to church. But I have to ask....Why do you think J is a Mason? How does he flaunt and hint? Now if you would of said Chris Tucker or TI (I think) is a Mason then you would of been on target.

@ Kryp that is a perspective that Ive heard before as well.

@ Work...no, I didnt take offense at all (I hope you didnt either)...I think its interesting dialogue. Let me see if I can clarify what I meant.

Im not saying that all white masons know about the inner workings of the NWO. Im saying that it would make sense for it to be on a need to know basis (along the same lines of what Kryp said) and that it would make sense that that information would stay among certain members...and most likely white ones. As for bloodlines, I was talking about the true bloodlines that link back to Englad (i.e. Queen Elizabeth, etc) not legacy type blood lines within orgs.

I didnt mean for it to sound like difft info is being disseminated but what I did mean to say is that if somethiing untoward is going on, it is highly probable that only certain people would know about it. And others may be unsuspecting pawns to advance a particular aim. Think about the priest and other scandals with churches for an example...many congregants sit ignorant to what is really going on behind the scenes and for a long time, if asked would have argued anyone down that their church was not involved in such deeds...no way, no how. Then it comes to light that the corruption runs deep. Think about the Mafia. Corrupt people or someone trying to take over the world is not going to admit it or pass out a calling card. LOL And the greatest trick the devil pulled is convincing people that he does not exist. If someone is hell bent on convincing me that something is false or doesnt exist when there is at least a scintilla of evidence that suggest that there is a possibility....Im inclined not to believe them.

I dont put anything past anyone. My eyes are not wide shut. If you look at what is going on around us, alot of what has been dubbed NWO-ish business seems to be coming to fruition. If you look at Revelations, the prophesies are nigh. So do I believe it? Yes. Do I believe that the Masons as a collective body are behind it? No. Do I believe that there are some people who may be in secret societies who have a supreme influence over what's going on? Undoubtedly.

As for Jay Z....Im not going to put it out there or go into detail but certain things he does (not so much what he says) implies that he is involved in something or at the very least someone who he is affiliated with is. Maybe not masonary, but something. Look at his album covers closely, look at his clothes, look at Roc-a-Wear emblems, look at it all. I, for one, do not believe "The Roc" sign is a diamond, esp when he does it with his left eye in the middle. I, personally, dont believe in that many coincidences.

Water...kill the vids man...if you have something to say....say it! lol

[THE emPRISS]

Mar 11, 2009 11:28:52 GMT -5 Noble Work said:

I feel ya'll on this chip thing. But that certainly don't rule out Masons if it were to happen. Now if such a thing did get worst than it already is then it will be the people with Power who will not get a chip. The power player stopped using Cash a looooooooong time ago.

True....how else do you get into a trillion dollar deficit!

lol

[water]

[water]

This book is Awesome

[THE emPRISS]

Did you actually read it or did you just look at it for the cover and the pretty pictures?

lol

[water]

Now back to the "NOVO ORDO SECLORUM" ...lol

[THE emPRISS]

Back? You were never in the discussion!

LOL

[Noble Work]

No I didn't get offended Priss so we good. I think I understand where you're coming from though. I to believe in an "elite" who makes this world go around. Is it the Masons? I doubt it? Are some of the men that are in this "elite" just Happened to be Freemasons? Probably. But that doesn't mean that they are ran/controlled/plotted etc...by Freemasons. Priss I'm not saying you said that. But I do understand where you coming from.

Oh and a lot of people don't know this but the diamond (jay z)/eye thing, some call it the all seeing eye, is not masonic at all. If you (not YOU priss but in general terms) do the history behind it you'll find out that it derived from/for something else.

AND there are other orgs who uses the Square and Compass to...yep.

I never paid attention to J's album cover, clothes, emblems.....

<-----goes to check

[THE emPRISS]

Yea, I thought about that as well...everything is derived from something else....so I will concede and retract my statement (or at least the amount of authority with which I stated it...lol) that Jay Z is a mason....ALTHOUGH I have heard that he was.

[water]

Jay Z and his crew ....They call so called white masons and their black version ("The Wiz") fake ,,,,,,,And in return the so called regular masons call them clandestine or bogus....

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Now after all the money made on selling street crime music Jay z might have joined the so called regular masons but at this point it is still a secret.

the roc is not a diamond its the roca fellas who control the diamond industry

www.sharethetruth.tv/v/218,david-rockefeller-and-jay-z-rocafella-connection.html

[water]

[THE emPRISS]

ummmmmmmmmm




smh

[water]

[Noble Work]

Mar 12, 2009 5:27:41 GMT -5 @water said:

Do a little more research and you'll find that the "all seeing eye"/pyramid did NOT originate or start or come from Freemasonry. All it takes is a few clicks (please exclude the anti masonry sites), or a BOOK maybe?

[ReignMan19]

I just realized how loopy Water really is... this is a perfect conversation to express some of his views in educated manner. Instead he is in here playing

[THE emPRISS]

Talking sensibly and honestly is not always easy. It means saying things that sometimes people don't like to hear.

[huey]

Mar 11, 2009 20:46:38 GMT -5 THE emPRISS said:

ummmmmmmmmm




smh

water doesnt have it all.