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Post by water on May 2, 2008 9:53:59 GMT -5
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
and this is a Heart issue for anyone whose heart has been circumcised by the sword of the spirit would not commit murder of children that are in their mother's stomach's and or support it.
Robelite what is your position on Sodomy ? is it a sin Is it a crime against nature as stated in Va State law ?
and do you support gay marriage and or civil unions?
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Post by Search1906 on May 2, 2008 11:27:47 GMT -5
“You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” and this is a Heart issue for anyone whose heart has been circumcised by the sword of the spirit would not commit murder of children that are in their mother's stomach's and or support it. Robelite what is your position on Sodomy ? is it a sin Is it a crime against nature as stated in Va State law ? and do you support gay marriage and or civil unions? Water VA says oral $ex is against the law whether you are married or not but the bible says the marriage bed is undefiled so how do you reconcile those two things. I think we all know that when you aren't married you shouldn't engage in oral but how do you legistlate what married people do? |
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Post by water on May 2, 2008 11:41:24 GMT -5
you can legislate all day but if someone wants to have sex with his or her pets they will do it. Thats why i said this is a Heart issue .
Sodomy : anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal
Sodomy defiles the wedding bed
undefiled
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Spotless
unsullied, unsoiled, flawless; see clean 1, pure 2.
2.
Innocent
virginal, sinless, holy; see chaste 2, 3.
Oral and anal sex are perversions of what God Created for husbands and wives to come together in Holy Matrimony and procreate.
oral sex and anal sex are not only perversions they are unhealthy acts that will lead to serious health complications
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Post by Search1906 on May 2, 2008 11:51:15 GMT -5
Um Imma need the scripture on oral sex homie. I give you that on the back door sex.
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Post by coldfront06 on May 2, 2008 12:05:03 GMT -5
I see why Water always has a stick up his ass. He ain't getting no head at home! ;D
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Post by water on May 2, 2008 13:00:27 GMT -5
reprobate mind, Romans 1 keep your marriage honorable  if you are not born again this means nothing to you because Jesus is not your Master you are your own master. but when the Holy Spirit comes upon you it will lead you into all truth.
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Post by Search1906 on May 2, 2008 13:05:46 GMT -5
<----Does not havea reprobate mind. Again ask for scripture that outlines what can and cannot happen with married folk. Please post. Thanks.
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Post by water on May 2, 2008 14:02:24 GMT -5
I gave you Romans 1 if thats is not enough then take it to the Lord in Prayer.....I am Free Your mouth is for eating food ,drinking , and preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ . And people wonder why their tongues move like snakes ...its because your tongue was not designed by God to put in and on sexual organs and private areas on men and women ....... it is unnatural a perversion .... |
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Post by Search1906 on May 2, 2008 22:03:27 GMT -5
Ummm water you may need to reread it talks about men and women forsaking natural relations with the opposite sex and burning in lust and defiling themselves with the same sex. :smh:
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Post by water on May 3, 2008 10:04:14 GMT -5
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Just because you are married does not mean that you can just do anything with your wife or husband unnatural lust can defile your wedding bed and this is at Christian Married Folks now the carnal mind is never satisfied but the mind that is renewed by the washing of the Word of God is a sound mind and thank God for the Holy Spirit for man can share but it is the Holy Spirit that will lead us into Truth. Many like to just put this Chapter on Homosexuals but is about Mankind period and how strange fruit is the result of bad seed and idolatress roots . Thank You Jesus
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Post by Search1906 on May 3, 2008 19:35:22 GMT -5
I think we'll agree to disagree. I think where you have taken this is a stretch. Sex is not solely for procreation if that is what you are saying. Its serves to bring a married couple together and procreation. If you don't think so then revisit 1 Corinthians 7:1-7:
7:1 Now with regard to the issues you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 1 7:2 But because of immoralities, each man should have relations with 2 his own wife and each woman with 3 her own husband. 7:3 A husband should give to his wife her sexual rights, 4 and likewise a wife to her husband. 7:4 It is not the wife who has the rights to her own body, but the husband. In the same way, it is not the husband who has the rights to his own body, but the wife. 7:5 Do not deprive each other, except by mutual agreement for a specified time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. 5 Then resume your relationship, 6 so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 7:6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7:7 I wish that everyone was as I am. But each has his own gift from God, one this way, another that.
I will say the sado masichism, anal, group sex, swinging and other craziness that people indulge in but I aint buying that you can't please your wife or she can't please you. Sorry homie. That may convict you but I'mma pull out Romans 14 on you.
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Post by water on May 4, 2008 14:46:21 GMT -5
No i dont believe that sex is just for pro- creation . i believe thats sex is what helps bind husbands and wives together and children are one terrific result of that two becoming one flesh. Now we will agree to disagree about oral sex but it is not a healthy practice period thats why men and women have to use things to stop from getting infections on or in the mouth.
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if you are not born again this means nothing to you because Jesus is not your Master you are your own master. but when the Holy Spirit comes upon you it will lead you into all truth.