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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 7, 2008 11:18:05 GMT -5
Mifucca, cot shid got damn! Can a sista get a bill?
I am speechless! Go Obama!
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 7, 2008 11:43:40 GMT -5
Well, I don't get paid until Friday--but I am DEFINITELY sending that man some money--and send up some prayers on his behalf.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 7, 2008 16:15:37 GMT -5
<---= made a contribution earlier <---= made another not too long ago
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 7, 2008 16:25:03 GMT -5
I sent some to John Edwards when he was in the race. But I am definitely onboard the "Obama Express" now. And NO, I'm not a bandwagon jumper--he always was my #2 choice.
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Post by FatalDST on Feb 7, 2008 16:39:02 GMT -5
<---= made a contribution earlier <---= made another not too long ago I plan on making one soon! LOL btw, its up to $7 Million now!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 7, 2008 16:45:59 GMT -5
<---= made a contribution earlier <---= made another not too long ago I plan on making one soon! LOL btw, its up to $7 Million now! He needs to go on a commercial media blitz. The Clintons are close to tapped out for money. They actually had to lend their campaign money (how does that work? Does the campaign pay them back with interest).
Anyway - the more people get to know of Obama, the more they like him. He closed the gaps in almost every state for Super Tuesday. If he had had more time, he probably would have won all of them except for New York, Cali, and Arkansas. He ran competitive just about everywhere else.
Hillary wants to debate because she doesn't have money for commericals. She now wants to debate every week. Too bad for her.
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Post by FatalDST on Feb 7, 2008 16:50:40 GMT -5
Im trippin on them just having $5 Million to lend!!
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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 7, 2008 16:53:39 GMT -5
I was looking for the $7 million article to post, but CNN hid it from me! LOL!
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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 7, 2008 16:54:20 GMT -5
The Clintons aren't RICH, but WEALTHY. Don't let Hillary's bad wardrobe fool ya!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 7, 2008 16:56:44 GMT -5
And how did they get wealthy? The same way politicians from the old guard all get healthy. Trading money for power and power for money.
That's one of the myriad of reasons why we should be voting for Barack. His campaign has more finances because most of their campaign finance comes from lots of individual donors rather than fatkats and corporations.
I WANT someone in the WH who is NOT beholden to Big Oil, Big Energy, Insurance, and Healthcare giants. We ALL should want that.
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 7, 2008 17:17:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't debate ISH. Meanwhile, I'd blanket EVERY SINGLE STATE with radio, TV and internet ads.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 7, 2008 17:27:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't debate ISH. Meanwhile, I'd blanket EVERY SINGLE STATE with radio, TV and internet ads. Exactly.
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Post by Southie on Feb 7, 2008 19:44:16 GMT -5
<<will trade for 7million ;D
Anyway, with McCain the likely Republican nominee, they have time to focus on the getting the party on one accord, pool their money, and really get focues. However, on the Democrat side: still battling between Hillary and Barack.
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Post by Cambist on Feb 7, 2008 21:05:52 GMT -5
1. McCain is going to have a time uniting the party. Plus, I can't think of a VP Candidate that will balance him. McCain is an elder statesman who has very strong beliefs on a number of issues. There is no Veep out there who can temper him or balance him on issues with bumping heads with him.
2. Obama just needs to stay the course. Don't listen to people saying that he needs to talk more about the issues. The issues are there...read the website or ask the question. No one comes to a rally to hear the candidate lay out the issues. They come to be inspired. Leaders inspire their people to act..or not to act. We can't help it if Hillary is uninspiring.
3. Hillary and Bill need to be careful. They are running out of money, why? Because they rely on big donors and once the big donors have tapped out, they are broke. Obama is raising money $5, $25, $50 and $100 at a time. It's a sustainable approach because you can always go back to that person who gave $20 and ask for another $20. You ain't coming back to me too many times for a $1,000 donation and that's what Hillary is hanging her hat on - $1,000 per plate dinners.
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Post by IvyByDesign on Feb 7, 2008 22:22:41 GMT -5
sidebar: anyone read Obama's book: The Audacity of Hope?
I'm reading it now, and I admit, I am gaining more and more respect for him. I want to see him win!!!
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 8, 2008 1:12:59 GMT -5
1. McCain is going to have a time uniting the party. Plus, I can't think of a VP Candidate that will balance him. McCain is an elder statesman who has very strong beliefs on a number of issues. There is no Veep out there who can temper him or balance him on issues with bumping heads with him. 2. Obama just needs to stay the course. Don't listen to people saying that he needs to talk more about the issues. The issues are there...read the website or ask the question. No one comes to a rally to hear the candidate lay out the issues. They come to be inspired. Leaders inspire their people to act..or not to act. We can't help it if Hillary is uninspiring. 3. Hillary and Bill need to be careful. They are running out of money, why? Because they rely on big donors and once the big donors have tapped out, they are broke. Obama is raising money $5, $25, $50 and $100 at a time. It's a sustainable approach because you can always go back to that person who gave $20 and ask for another $20. You ain't coming back to me too many times for a $1,000 donation and that's what Hillary is hanging her hat on - $1,000 per plate dinners. McCain is going to have problems unifying the ticket because he is not a true blue dyed in the wool Right Wing Evangelical Conservative. They want another Bush, a president whose ear they can bend, they don't realize that they are no longer in the power loop. Their day of influence is over and they don't even know it yet. The kind of person they'd have to bring on as VP would have to be so outrageously conservative to excite the Republican base, that they couldn't possibly win the electoral vote when it came to the actual election.
I don't know why the media is suddenly carrying "water" for the Clintons and saying that Clinton is stronger on the issues. Clinton has memorized more of her website than Obama that's about it. This is truly not the classic clash of style vs substance. The man has plenty of substance he also happens to have style along with it. I agree with Cam, it is not his fault that Clinton underwhelms and fails to inspire. It should also come as no surprise, as she is part of the old guard, and has traveled in their path. What is inspirational about the same Republican corruption, partisan machinery, and money handshakes, wearing a Democratic mask? I don't hate Republican corruption - I hate corruption. Giving me the Democratic equivalent of a bad approach to governance neither makes me happy nor leaves us as a country better off.
When Barack said, "We are the people we've been waiting for, we are the change we seek" that's not just stylistic dammit it's true. The change can't just be in the name of the leadership or the party affiliation, it has to be done fundamentally. And Barack is doing that. By avoiding lobbyists he is taken a step down "the road less traveled". I honestly can't remember the last time we had a president who wasn't beholden to large corporate campaign donors. Wouldn't you like to see what happens when we have a president that isn't indebted to lobbyists? Haven't you been waiting on a campaign that was about the people - and driven by the people? Well here it is. We truly ARE the people we've been waiting for... that is not just good speech making it is truth AND fundamental change.
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Post by Southie on Feb 8, 2008 8:14:37 GMT -5
I do not want any perceived edge for the Republicans. I really wish the Dems were in a position to make a targeted campaign, however it looks that will not happen until August at the convention.
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Post by Champs Elysees on Feb 8, 2008 10:49:02 GMT -5
1. McCain is going to have a time uniting the party. Plus, I can't think of a VP Candidate that will balance him. McCain is an elder statesman who has very strong beliefs on a number of issues. There is no Veep out there who can temper him or balance him on issues with bumping heads with him. 2. Obama just needs to stay the course. Don't listen to people saying that he needs to talk more about the issues. The issues are there...read the website or ask the question. No one comes to a rally to hear the candidate lay out the issues. They come to be inspired. Leaders inspire their people to act..or not to act. We can't help it if Hillary is uninspiring. 3. Hillary and Bill need to be careful. They are running out of money, why? Because they rely on big donors and once the big donors have tapped out, they are broke. Obama is raising money $5, $25, $50 and $100 at a time. It's a sustainable approach because you can always go back to that person who gave $20 and ask for another $20. You ain't coming back to me too many times for a $1,000 donation and that's what Hillary is hanging her hat on - $1,000 per plate dinners. McCain is going to have problems unifying the ticket because he is not a true blue dyed in the wool Right Wing Evangelical Conservative. They want another Bush, a president whose ear they can bend, they don't realize that they are no longer in the power loop. Their day of influence is over and they don't even know it yet. The kind of person they'd have to bring on as VP would have to be so outrageously conservative to excite the Republican base, that they couldn't possibly win the electoral vote when it came to the actual election.
I don't know why the media is suddenly carrying "water" for the Clintons and saying that Clinton is stronger on the issues. Clinton has memorized more of her website than Obama that's about it. This is truly not the classic clash of style vs substance. The man has plenty of substance he also happens to have style along with it. I agree with Cam, it is not his fault that Clinton underwhelms and fails to inspire. It should also come as no surprise, as she is part of the old guard, and has traveled in their path. What is inspirational about the same Republican corruption, partisan machinery, and money handshakes, wearing a Democratic mask? I don't hate Republican corruption - I hate corruption. Giving me the Democratic equivalent of a bad approach to governance neither makes me happy nor leaves us as a country better off.
When Barack said, "We are the people we've been waiting for, we are the change we seek" that's not just stylistic dammit it's true. The change can't just be in the name of the leadership or the party affiliation, it has to be done fundamentally. And Barack is doing that. By avoiding lobbyists he is taken a step down "the road less traveled". I honestly can't remember the last time we had a president who wasn't beholden to large corporate campaign donors. Wouldn't you like to see what happens when we have a president that isn't indebted to lobbyists? Haven't you been waiting on a campaign that was about the people - and driven by the people? Well here it is. We truly ARE the people we've been waiting for... that is not just good speech making it is truth AND fundamental change. That's one of the biggest reasons why I support Obama and not Hillary. He will be working for us. Not corporate interests, unlike the remainder of the candidates. That makes a HUGE difference.
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 8, 2008 11:00:10 GMT -5
1. McCain is going to have a time uniting the party. Plus, I can't think of a VP Candidate that will balance him. McCain is an elder statesman who has very strong beliefs on a number of issues. There is no Veep out there who can temper him or balance him on issues with bumping heads with him. 2. Obama just needs to stay the course. Don't listen to people saying that he needs to talk more about the issues. The issues are there...read the website or ask the question. No one comes to a rally to hear the candidate lay out the issues. They come to be inspired. Leaders inspire their people to act..or not to act. We can't help it if Hillary is uninspiring. 3. Hillary and Bill need to be careful. They are running out of money, why? Because they rely on big donors and once the big donors have tapped out, they are broke. Obama is raising money $5, $25, $50 and $100 at a time. It's a sustainable approach because you can always go back to that person who gave $20 and ask for another $20. You ain't coming back to me too many times for a $1,000 donation and that's what Hillary is hanging her hat on - $1,000 per plate dinners. Yeah, plus with the $2300 limit on donations...Once someone maxes out at that number they can't give more. So Hillary's money has come from less people and she can't even go back to them because they're maxed out. While as Damie said, Barack has a larger donation base with smaller amounts who can continue to give all the way up to $2300. If you start with $20 9r $50 it will take a while to get there. I must say, I am completely impressed not only with Barack the candidate, but Obama '08 the campaign. If you haven't been to barackobama.com yet, check it out. Clear communication and messages, and the coordination of volunteers and teams are excellent.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 8, 2008 11:49:01 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that we fail to capitalize on this moment. There are few times when someone says something that resonates with me as a "truth". When Obama said:
We are the people we've been waiting for - again it wasn't just rhetoric or good speech making (it was both of those things) but it was also TRUE. We've been waiting for a chance to change to TRULY not change. To not exchange a corrupt Republican regime for corrupt Democrat one - but to actually CHANGE the landscape.
The same people who contributed heavily to Hillary almost CERTAINLY contributed to the Republican frontrunners. That's how they ensure their fortunes.
If there is anyone who is reading this who thinks that part of Bush's reason for going to war in Iraq was NOT in part due to oil and oil interest in America you are kidding yourself. Iraq has been a bonanza for companies/corporations friendly to Bush. Every industry that lined to donate to Bush benefitted. Energy, Oil, Healthcare, Insurance - there was not ONE that didn't get legislation beneficial to them.
If we don't seize this opportunity now - when will ever have another opportunity? When will we have an intelligent, inspiring candidate with sober judgement who has rejected the old way of doing things - and is STILL a viable candidate? Can we afford to miss this boat? I don't think we can. What good is it to say that Hillary has more experience and familiarity with the system if it's the system that we reject?
Obama in 08
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Post by Worthy Most Ancient Matron on Feb 8, 2008 20:29:46 GMT -5
Great point Damie!
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