MEN ONLY/WOMEN ONLY - UPDATE

[msurbana]

Perhaps you should have PMed him. You chose not to and now your approach is under critism. Likely thing. If you did not want it to occur in that manner you could have kept it in private. No one outside of the men's forum new exactly what was going on until you laid it out on the table, HERE.

Also, what I am speaking about has to do with the Old OO. What DIS was talking about had to do with a specific post on the Old OO.

Therefore what was criticized THEN is appearing in the HERE AND NOW and we have a right to comment on it.

I have concluded that this is a mess. Are you saying your pespective and opinion some how trumps the way I see things from my end?


I mean did you NOT read fraternal's RESIGNATION LETTER.

He mentioned MESS. He called you all out.

Yet you all post in here like zombies say: there was no mess.
There is no mess. An admin did not quit, because of mess. Mess is not the case.

Am I missing something?

searchinfortruth said:

So MsUrbana you were in the Mens Forum? No your weren't so you only have a snapshot.

I have nothing to do with the old OO and the sentiments voiced there. I am dealing with here and now and I don't believe it applies. No one was being messy. I spoke to FD in the forum and then outside of it when HE(and the other admins) closed it down. Was I supposed to just PM him? Why? I wasn't going at him foul. We had a disagreement. Its a MB where you dialogue. Why is that wrong? He knew I didn't agree and we even exchanged PM last night where he gave me the new password and I apologized if he was offended. So once again I ask how is that messy. Please someone let me know. I don't think pass biases should apply.

[DamieQue™]

msurbana said:

Well I did ask what it meant. If I was wrong in my assertions, I will stand corrected. I have no problem doing that at all.

However, afterwhile yall are gonna run out of these "we know yall don't know, because it was in the men's section" coins.

damieque said:

Sigh... see this demonstrates exactly what I'm talking. All the fellas know what thread he started - and that was an inside joke among the men. It wasn't MEANT for you to understand... but I guess that doesn't stop you from attaching your own meaning to it (as you have).

Let's overlook that asking this question REPRESENTS a breach in security... the point is you are as wrong about the conclusions you have drawn about this based on limited information, as you are about the character of the issue that happened in the Men's section.

[DamieQue™]

It's a messageboard. If you can comment on stuff that you don't know about, I'll answer whatever post I feel moved to answer.

msurbana said:

I do not appreciate you speaking for me. You are not my father nor are you my legal representation.

All comments directed towards me I can address MYSELF.

Thank you.

damieque said:

It's messy because she says it is. It's a pretty compelling argument. I said so. Hell - I'm convinced now.

[AlphaMale]

damieque said:

I'm glad I waited to type this cause I was heated earlier today.

I don't have a problem with having adjunct admins, it's more work than one person can do so it makes sense to delegate. But it was always my belief that the admins acted as caretakers for the infrastructure, not military tribunal.

You point out correctly that we OO, decided what the color should be, who can join, and what it would look like - the admins administered it.

Did that happen today? No.

I witnessed what happened today in the Men's section and I didn't think the action taken was called for at all - not for the reason given (security). Afterall, myself and others asked that the password to the men's section be changed long before today and the response was that our admin MIGHT change it but that security was not his main concern. As you can imagine I rested easier that night because it was not HIS main concern.

What happened today IMO was a personal stand-off between Nupe and FratD. FratD issued an ultimatum, when Nupe refused to comply, the hammer came down. There was no vote, there was no security concern, there was just an exercise of power.

Let's ignore the whole security canard for right now. Let's say FratD was concerned about security and had actual belief that it had been compromised (neither of these things is true in my opinion but let's assume that they were) - you take down the forum and then you communicate with who? What group was consulted about what should be done? The Men of the forum? No. Again we get no vote. We get to hear what the admins decided was best for all of us, without talking to (apparently) any of us.

In any event, do whatever it is you like (it appears that's what's going to happen anyway). It's a free world right? You don't have to listen to anyone's concerns - you're not getting paid for this, and they don't have to post here. This isn't anyone's job. As has been pointed out several times those who don't like it can go elsewhere.

This attitude is one that will not serve any of us here well - but we are all free to adopt it. Regardless of how SH and Cam might have administered OO, what we learned from the crash of OO v1 was that no one OWNS OO. You can have rights to a site or a domain name, you can change or restrict posts, but the fabric of what OO is NOBODY owns and NOBODY rules. If you get in the habit of making decisions as though either were true - you will find that administration will become very easy because there will be few people who stay and acquiesce to it.

There. That's one man's opinion. Hate it or Love it.

*Logs off*

Day - Me - Que! Day - Me - Que! Day - Me - Que!

[msurbana]

And each time you will be met with the same disapproval.

I can answer for myself.

damieque said:

It's a messageboard. If you can comment on stuff that you don't know about, I'll answer whatever post I feel moved to answer.

msurbana said:

I do not appreciate you speaking for me. You are not my father nor are you my legal representation.

All comments directed towards me I can address MYSELF.

Thank you.

[Bunny Hop]

there was a resignation letter? there was a thread out here removed?

<---become more and more lost with every push of F5

[Julie Art]

*runs back in*

Outtie, I e-love you!


*runs back out*

[DamieQue™]

LOL - in conclusion. Nanny Nanny boo boo. It's whatever Outtie. I'm going home. You have fun.

*Logs off smh*

msurbana said:

And each time you will be met with the same disapproval.

I can answer for myself.

damieque said:

It's a messageboard. If you can comment on stuff that you don't know about, I'll answer whatever post I feel moved to answer.

[msurbana]

Rhetorically, I asked what it meant. Did I ask any one person directly? Nope. So now I am not allowed to ask things in my head and post them as they once presented themselves many days ago.
I guess that's a breach of security, because you can not control my thought processes.

A breach of security=== is bringing private forum knowledge to the main forum, which is something you did sir. You pointed out things that happened there in your intial post against what happened.

Are we still talking breaching here?

No. I hope you are moving on as I am.

Lastly, I stand corrected in that statement. I said that those were NOT fraternal's thoughts or conclusions but my own.

Let's take your words:

It's a messageboard.

which means I am allowed to post my thoughts. That is the purpose of a message board.

Thanks for reminding me.

damieque said:

msurbana said:

Well I did ask what it meant. If I was wrong in my assertions, I will stand corrected. I have no problem doing that at all.

However, afterwhile yall are gonna run out of these "we know yall don't know, because it was in the men's section" coins.

Let's overlook that asking this question REPRESENTS a breach in security... the point is you are as wrong about the conclusions you have drawn about this based on limited information, as you are about the character of the issue that happened in the Men's section.

[Search1906]

msurbana said:

Perhaps you should have PMed him. You chose not to and now your approach is under critism. Likely thing. If you did not want it to occur in that manner you could have kept it in private. No one outside of the men's forum new exactly what was going on until you laid it out on the table, HERE.

Also, what I am speaking about has to do with the Old OO. What DIS was talking about had to do with a specific post on the Old OO.

Therefore what was criticized THEN is appearing in the HERE AND NOW and we have a right to comment on it.

I have concluded that this is a mess. Are you saying your pespective and opinion some how trumps the way I see things from my end?


I mean did you NOT read fraternal's RESIGNATION LETTER.

He mentioned MESS. He called you all out.

Yet you all post in here like zombies say: there was no mess.
There is no mess. An admin did not quit, because of mess. Mess is not the case.

Am I missing something?

searchinfortruth said:

So MsUrbana you were in the Mens Forum? No your weren't so you only have a snapshot.

I have nothing to do with the old OO and the sentiments voiced there. I am dealing with here and now and I don't believe it applies. No one was being messy. I spoke to FD in the forum and then outside of it when HE(and the other admins) closed it down. Was I supposed to just PM him? Why? I wasn't going at him foul. We had a disagreement. Its a MB where you dialogue. Why is that wrong? He knew I didn't agree and we even exchanged PM last night where he gave me the new password and I apologized if he was offended. So once again I ask how is that messy. Please someone let me know. I don't think pass biases should apply.

Hold up you are reaching here homie. It was a private things and was bound to become public because he snatched the forum without an explanation. You make it seem like I should feel bad about addressing him here. As I stated numerous times before I spoke to him in the forum and then on here when it shut down and people were asking what happened. Why should I have PMed people when it was obvious something happened to our forum. You are killing me. Expand your mind past your narrow view that skewed by your bias.

And just because you all were called out on some BS doesn't mean what happened with us correlates.

What I am saying is my view of the whole things trumps your partial view because its just that a partial view. I gave you facts yet you ignore them so its on you for going on partial info. As I stated before reading is fundamental.

You are missing alot...but I digress. Ignorance is bliss. LOL

[msurbana]

I e-love you too! (hugs) ;D

akadahardway said:

*runs back in*

Outtie, I e-love you!


*runs back out*

[msurbana]

Expand your mind past your narrow view that skewed by your bias.

Perhaps you should do the same thing, huh?

searchinfortruth said:

msurbana said:

Perhaps you should have PMed him. You chose not to and now your approach is under critism. Likely thing. If you did not want it to occur in that manner you could have kept it in private. No one outside of the men's forum new exactly what was going on until you laid it out on the table, HERE.

Also, what I am speaking about has to do with the Old OO. What DIS was talking about had to do with a specific post on the Old OO.

Therefore what was criticized THEN is appearing in the HERE AND NOW and we have a right to comment on it.

I have concluded that this is a mess. Are you saying your pespective and opinion some how trumps the way I see things from my end?


I mean did you NOT read fraternal's RESIGNATION LETTER.

He mentioned MESS. He called you all out.

Yet you all post in here like zombies say: there was no mess.
There is no mess. An admin did not quit, because of mess. Mess is not the case.

Am I missing something?

Hold up you are reaching here homie. It was a private things and was bound to become public because he snatched the forum without an explanation. You make it seem like I should feel bad about addressing him here. As I stated numerous times before I spoke to him in the forum and then on here when it shut down and people were asking what happened. Why should I have PMed people when it was obvious something happened to our forum. You are killing me. Expand your mind past your narrow view that skewed by your bias.

And just because you all were called out on some BS doesn't mean what happened with us correlates.

What I am saying is my view of the whole things trumps your partial view because its just that a partial view. I gave you facts yet you ignore them so its on you for going on partial info. As I stated before reading is fundamental.

You are missing alot...but I digress. Ignorance is bliss. LOL

[Search1906]

<---Has an open mind. Doesn't make generalizations based on old ish like Outtie/MsUrbana.

[Versatile]

Let's end this with an agree to disagree shall we?

[coldfront06]

I have no clue what this "argument" is even about anymore. It all sounds like WOMP WOMP right about now.

[ACES]

<--let's out an emploring, Rodney King-esque "can't we all just get along?"

<---hops in his yugo, high on coke and drives off into the night...

[Bunny Hop]

coldfront06 said:

I have no clue what this "argument" is even about anymore. It all sounds like WOMP WOMP right about now.

I was trying to find tha clip from 40 Year Old Virgin when Steve Carell was drunk and talking about how people in relationships sound, lol

[coldfront06]

bunnyhop said:

coldfront06 said:

I have no clue what this "argument" is even about anymore. It all sounds like WOMP WOMP right about now.

I was trying to find tha clip from 40 Year Old Virgin when Steve Carell was drunk and talking about how people in relationships sound, lol

Pretty much! LOL

[princeprimo]

LOL...smh...and Strike #972 (in life) for Search (McLovin??, whateva's next) for not supporting real talk!

searchinfortruth said:

Strike 2 for Primo. LOL :smh:

[Search1906]

What its about is folks are proving that certain school system are failing to teach basic reading and reasoning skills.

I need to adhere to the old Mark Twain quote that Jay-z stole: Never argue with a fool because from a distance you can't tell the difference between the two.

I'm done....Bammas can think what they want but I and those who were privy to the forum and how things went do both behind and in front of the scene know what happen. As I stated before I'm sorry FD felt the need to leave but I don't think it was the intent of the majority that he did that. That is all.

[Versatile]

LOL. Search, how are you going to say "that is all" after calling people bamas and fools, and stating they don't have basic reading and reasoning skills? LMAO.

[Search1906]

princeprimo said:

LOL...smh...and Strike #972 (in life) for Search (McLovin??, whateva's next) for not supporting real talk!

searchinfortruth said:

Strike 2 for Primo. LOL :smh:

Prince its not real talk if you are commenting without all the facts its called talking out of your arse. There is a difference man. Those who witness a certain post of yours in the mens forum know why I gave you the tongue in cheek strike 2. You know why too. LMAO

[Julie Art]

*thinking of what Outtie said about those coins*

This is the song that doesn't end!
Yes it goes on and on my friend!
Some people, started singing it, now knowing what it was
And they'll continue singing it forever just because
This is the song that doesn't end..................

[Versatile]

searchinfortruth said:

princeprimo said:

LOL...smh...and Strike #972 (in life) for Search (McLovin??, whateva's next) for not supporting real talk!

Prince its not real talk if you are commenting without all the facts its called talking out of your arse. There is a difference man. Those who witness a certain post of yours in the mens forum know why I gave you the tongue in cheek strike 2. You know why too. LMAO

So, since it was MY post he was talking about are you saying I am talking out of my ass?

[ACES]

so would this mess qualify as OOA's first serious board argument and e-tho' down? If so, we need to install a historian to capture this train wreck, as sad as it may be....it's our histOOry...

[coldfront06]

<-----Thinks the Men's Forum had been fucked beyond repair anyway
<-----Thinks its unfortunate because there were some good discussions there in the early days
<-----Will post his reckless and potentially offensive stuff on the main board now

[Search1906]

Because I can Vers. You know me...I am a peaceful brotha but I hate BS and folks that don't listen or read. I laid out the scenario in a few ways and folks can see past their nose to understand what really went on. They are hellbent on getting some get back because their little feelings got hurt on the old OO. I can't accept that which is why I am so vehement on what I am saying. People are putting a square peg in a circular hole and I am calling them on it and they are playing ignorant so I just gave them the name they requested.

When have you known me to speak out like this? I usually just keep it moving which should tell you that there is more to this then just MESS. Folks on here comment on stuff with half or no facts to support their agenda. I'm calling BS and that is why I said what I said.

To Quote the blond haired secular prophet Ric Flair: Whether You like, or you don't like.....learn to love it because its the best thing going today....WHOOOOO!!!!!

Crumbs!!!

[Versatile]

While that's all fine and dandy, you did not answer my question.

I repeat, were you saying I was "talking out of my arse"?

[Search1906]

Vers What I am saying is that at that point you posted without all the facts so if the shoe fits on certain parts of your post yes. I have already told you I agree that it was wrong that FDs sexual preference was referenced but I will not agree that our voicing our displeasure was wrong. I will not agree that how things went down was right and we shouldn't have questioned it. I hope that clears things up.

[princeprimo]

LOL...yeah, I know why and I'm good with it! ;D It's not that she HAS to know the facts, it's that her general statement is on the money! (Come on, you know that bruh) I KNOW the facts, so I can say that...

searchinfortruth said:

princeprimo said:

LOL...smh...and Strike #972 (in life) for Search (McLovin??, whateva's next) for not supporting real talk!

Prince its not real talk if you are commenting without all the facts its called talking out of your arse. There is a difference man. Those who witness a certain post of yours in the mens forum know why I gave you the tongue in cheek strike 2. You know why too. LMAO