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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 5, 2008 22:32:06 GMT -5
Barack just won Minnesota
@ Big PUN: New Jersey and New York where Clinton strong holds until recently. He made a decent showing in each but Clinton won both of those hands down
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Post by QUIET As Kept on Feb 5, 2008 22:32:21 GMT -5
damnit, Damie beat me to it
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Post by Warner Fite on Feb 5, 2008 22:38:26 GMT -5
Barack just won Minnesota
@ Big PUN: New Jersey and New York where Clinton strong holds until recently. He made a decent showing in each but Clinton won both of those hands down Politically, I just thought NJ was so unpredictable. When I lived there it 60/40 GOP when Whitman was in office *shrugs* Old Black money in NJ, though. I suspect the civil rights movers sided with Clinton along with the Unitarian Church liberal white folks...*smh* |
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 5, 2008 22:47:20 GMT -5
Ok...I just had to signin to say. CNN was breaking down the votes among seniors in Arizona.
Clinton led with 58%
Obama had 33%
Why did OTHERS have 9%!!!?
I was like dammit! these senile old coots and biddies don't know what the hell they're doing, and they don't care, cuz most of them prolly know they don't have to live with their decision too long.
9% y'all for OTHERS! who else is in the race?
Every other group can break it down to 100% Why can't the seniors get it right? They've gotta be off and piss off 9% of the vote because of alzheimers! LOL!
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Post by Warner Fite on Feb 5, 2008 22:50:08 GMT -5
Barack wins Kansas and Connecticut I was thinking that Connecticut and New Jersey would be mail-ins for Obama...NJ is disapointing as usual. I'm in AZ right now....Obama is up 52% to 43%...very surprised at that. My wife just called and said it's tight in California. Had it wrong....Clinton is up in Az...my bad. |
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Post by Cambist on Feb 5, 2008 22:52:16 GMT -5
I guess we are just waiting for Cali right now. In any event, no one secured the nomination tonight so its' going to be an interesting race.
This longer race favors Obama because he's been gaining momentum AND lots of loot! If Hillary fails to put him down tonight, she's going to have a long row to hoe.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 5, 2008 22:57:45 GMT -5
Obama is winning more states, but the states he's winning have lower populations. Anyway, at the end of the day, for Obama and Hillary - winning the state just means you get more of the states delegates - I don't think the Democrats have many (if any) winner take all states.
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Post by Warner Fite on Feb 5, 2008 23:01:03 GMT -5
Obama is winning more states, but the states he's winning have lower populations. Anyway, at the end of the day, for Obama and Hillary - winning the state just means you get more of the states delegates - I don't think the Democrats have many (if any) winner take all states. I agree, both will spin this as a win due to their respective number states. This is possible due to lack of actual delegate numbers... Winning parts of the south was very impressive for me.....I'm anxious to hear about California....Before I let this morning, people seemed very excited about the prospects of Obama.... |
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 5, 2008 23:11:48 GMT -5
Yeah the Dems have no winner take all states. What is interesting to me, is that every state that is a caucus instead of a primary, Obama wins by a huge margin.
The other interesting thing is the Romney camp saying that Huckabee is ruining his chances and should fall back, when the Huckabee camp can basically say the same thing with the strength he's had in the southern states. How close would the Republican race be if there was no Romney in it?
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 5, 2008 23:22:08 GMT -5
Hillary polling strong among Latinos and Asians and leading in Cali. Obama has the edge in white voters and strong among African Americans.
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Post by Warner Fite on Feb 5, 2008 23:25:14 GMT -5
Yeah the Dems have no winner take all states. What is interesting to me, is that every state that is a caucus instead of a primary, Obama wins by a huge margin. The other interesting thing is the Romney camp saying that Huckabee is ruining his chances and should fall back, when the Huckabee camp can basically say the same thing with the strength he's had in the southern states. How close would the Republican race be if there was no Romney in it? Still close...it reminds me of the 2004 Dem primary's where it was a basic "pick you poison" vote....all of them, except Paul, are antiquated politicians. |
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 5, 2008 23:52:14 GMT -5
Looks like Hillary is going to take Arizona and is running strong in Cali. Obama is going to take Colardo and apparently has pulled even in Missouri. He just needs to stay competitive in Cali - and right now it's not happening.
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Post by Southie on Feb 6, 2008 8:05:03 GMT -5
Well Clinton took Cali however the overall delegate count is very close.
Last night was the first time I heard of super delegates? Something about top ranking officials, congressman, are assigned this title.
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Post by Gee-Are on Feb 6, 2008 8:34:13 GMT -5
yeah, people like Tom Daschle, other elected officials and get this...Bill Clinton are Super Delegates.
However, they can also change their vote at the last minute at the convention, they are not bound by the popular vote.
Do you think some behind closed door "deals" are going on for those votes?
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Post by Southie on Feb 6, 2008 9:17:31 GMT -5
I would like to see this list of Super Delegates and who they are supporting. Of course, this will not happen.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Feb 6, 2008 9:43:49 GMT -5
Most of the super delegates will probably go to Clinton. Alot of them are "Old Guarders" and those tend to go for Clinton
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Post by Cambist on Feb 6, 2008 10:26:11 GMT -5
Super Delegates can be a huge deal. I don't know what I think about them though. They are kinda like At-Large members of a City Council or board.
Often, at large members are elected in municipality wide (city, state, region, etc) elections and therefore require more funds. Usually, this means they have the backing of big money (read: big business)
So you know they will be in the back rooms making deals and such. As a matter of fact, I believe the decision of a vice presidential running mate is a function and result of these back room, super-delegate deals.
I love politics. I hate politics.
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Post by No Screen Name on Feb 6, 2008 12:13:52 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, I think I heard Donna Brazile say she is a Super Delagate.
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Post by Bunny Hop on Feb 6, 2008 14:54:57 GMT -5
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