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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 13:18:47 GMT -5
And then there were 2... for the Democrats...
...and for Republicans, Huckabee, Romney, McCain, and Paul are left.
The Plot thickens
www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1708147,00.html www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1707881,00.html?cnn=yes
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 13:26:29 GMT -5
Guilani been running as a VP from the beginning. He just did this for exposure. I think him and Mccain well be the on the ticket together. Besides after next tuesday the GOP gonna be a two elephant race anyway.
Edwards never had a chance. Neither Hillary or Obama would pick him as a running mate. I can see Obama with Hillary as a VP but I can't see Hillary as Obama being the VP. She just want to get in the whitehouse in any form. If she wins the nomination then she will probably pick someone else.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 13:36:17 GMT -5
I agree with Edwards being largely overshadowed by the Obama's and Hillary's campaign. I don't think he'll be tapped for VP by either one of them. They usually pick someone to balance the ticket or to carry an important state.
I also agree that the Republican race will pair down shortly and that the eventual winner will have to at least seriously consider Giuliani. A safer bet might be Bloomberg Gov. of New York. You get the same 9/11 tie in and support from NY without the baggage (which Giuliani has aplenty).
Who might be some good choices for VP for Obama and Hillary?
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 13:41:39 GMT -5
Well you heard it here first. Don't be surprised if Hillary picks the democrat in GOP clothing J C Watts.
VP is a dayum genius! lol
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Post by Warner Fite on Jan 30, 2008 13:48:26 GMT -5
Well you heard it here first. Don't be surprised if Hillary picks the democrat in GOP clothing J C Watts. VP is a dayum genius! lol She'd be a damn fool if she did that. You talk about the blind leading the blind, lol! Watts is about as credible on a Dem ticket as he would be on GOP ticket.... With that said though, I really think that there's noone better suited for each other than Obama and Clinton...honestly. Despite the nasty politics, their political ideologies are in line with each other.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 14:03:14 GMT -5
The GOP loves J C Watts though he is a turncoat for the dems
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 14:03:36 GMT -5
Well you heard it here first. Don't be surprised if Hillary picks the democrat in GOP clothing J C Watts. VP is a dayum genius! lol She'd be a damn fool if she did that. You talk about the blind leading the blind, lol! Watts is about as credible on a Dem ticket as he would be on GOP ticket.... With that said though, I really think that there's noone better suited for each other than Obama and Clinton...honestly. Despite the nasty politics, their political ideologies are in line with each other. This might be true (ideologically they aren't too terribly far apart) but I can't see either one tapping the other as VP. This is still politics. The VP for either one of these folks is going to be a white male. You heard it here first.
<---= willing to bet the farm on this one
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 14:07:59 GMT -5
Yall gotta get your talk radio game up. I listen to Limbaugh and Sean Hannity every day. Do you know how many times J C Watts has been on both of these shows? If Obama wins J C Watts will definatley be in the VP talks within the GOP
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 14:14:30 GMT -5
Yall gotta get your talk radio game up. I listen to Limbaugh and Sean Hannity every day. Do you know how many times J C Watts has been on both of these shows? If Obama wins J C Watts will definatley be in the VP talks within the GOP Within the talks? Probably. But he ain't gonna make no final cut. My guess is that they know they aren't going to lure black people to vote for Republicans by putting a conservative black as VP - and it'll cost them a lot of votes from "Libertarians" "Militias" and "Racists". I don't think they'll pull the trigger on that one. There has to be a more popular conservative African American whose name they can put out there...
...like
Colin Powell
That's the one you need to be on the look out for. I don't know if he'll be looking for that position or accept it if nominated, but THAT is the most logical play (since they believe that black folks vote for black folks just because they're black)
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Post by Gee-Are on Jan 30, 2008 14:47:51 GMT -5
I think Powell is not so sure he wold be that loyal to the Republican party.
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Post by msurbana on Jan 30, 2008 14:59:22 GMT -5
Hmmn...I wouldn't be surprised. Hillary has some republicanesque tendancies. Well you heard it here first. Don't be surprised if Hillary picks the democrat in GOP clothing J C Watts. VP is a dayum genius! lol
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Post by Cambist on Jan 30, 2008 15:47:07 GMT -5
Powell is a flight risk. He's done his time and been burned.
Watts? He's an average Oklahoma Black Republican. There are a lot in that state. He would make a sensible VP candidate for the Republican Party but I don't think they do it. I think they rely on white people's fears of black folks and run two white males.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 15:53:54 GMT -5
I honestly am not sure if Powell would want the position, but if Obama won for the Democrats, and he wanted the position for himself - he would have it instantly.
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Post by Vudu_Prince on Jan 30, 2008 16:23:15 GMT -5
Colin Powell couldve ran for president and won but I think there is somethings in his past that he doesn't want dug up. Say Panama....Gulf War 1....Iran Contra Affair...
Colin Powell was the National Security Advisor for Reagan from 87-89 and then served as Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 89-93
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 16:38:06 GMT -5
^^^^agrees with this
Plus I think they let him know (his own party) that he would run (if he ran) only when they said he could. I have never before seen party officials declare that a certain person wouldn't be running for office of President ahead of the actual person himself. But that's how I remember it happening. I can't remember who it was, but there was dude who basically said, "Colin Powell will NOT be running for the Republican Nomination for President" and I just remember thinking to myself...
...ain't that for Colin to say? But a little bit later -he came out and said the same thing.
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Post by Warner Fite on Jan 30, 2008 18:39:08 GMT -5
Colin Powell couldve ran for president and won but I think there is somethings in his past that he doesn't want dug up. Say Panama....Gulf War 1....Iran Contra Affair... Colin Powell was the National Security Advisor for Reagan from 87-89 and then served as Head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff from 89-93 whoa...okay. Yessir, you might be onto something there. I fact, given the nature of the ICA, Powell might've been blackmailed into political affiliation...that's good insight VP. Damie's assertion of a Obama/Powell ticket wouldn't be far-fetched, b/c his political ideologies don't match the neo-conservative movement, neo relative to the Lincoln republicans....
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 30, 2008 21:48:17 GMT -5
I meant to say that the Republicans would want Colin Powell on their ticket as VP if the Democrats nominate Obama
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Post by Sapphire on Jan 30, 2008 23:18:25 GMT -5
Okay I was about to say... did you really think two brothas could be on the same ticket and win?
So who do you all think will enter the democrats radar as far as VP goes? I think if it's Obama he'll definitely pick someone older and maybe with military experience. Not sure who that is. I have no clue for Hillary... I can't see her picking Obama though.
And since no one else is bringing it up, I'll just say it (well ask it). Has no one else thought about the possibility of an assasination attempt if a Black man wins the presidency? I seriously think he could win, but c'mon... we just had nooses on trees in Gena, LA. Am I the only person who thinks this may happen? So his VP pick will be important. Not to be morbid, but i'm just saying. The last time there was an assasination attempt on a prez who represented change was Kennedy and he was "liberal". Granted it was a different time but...
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Post by Southie on Jan 31, 2008 9:04:44 GMT -5
Possible Democratic VP candidates Edwards Kucinich Dean (yeah he has been quiet, and a long shot)
Republicans Guilliani (I agree with VP, that this has been his angle from the beginning)
A.Swartzneggar (another long shot, however I do not if he would qualify due to citizen status)
Powell: Not sure that he would like that much exposure, I think it has more to do with is wife than his military background
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 31, 2008 9:49:30 GMT -5
Regarding assassination.
Black people. Stop it. The President of the United States (REGARDLESS of who he or she is) will be a target for assassination.
The people who guard the President are the best of the best of the best. No system is fool-proof, but there isn't going to be any more elevated security if Obama wins versus McCain. Security is ALWAYS at an all time high for the President. Hell, all the candidates are under secret service protection right now anyway - all of them.
You think there weren't people out there that wanted to off Bush? You think any of 'em even got close to pulling it off?
Assassination is a non-issue - in the sense that EVERY candidate will face this issue. If Obama were to win, his VP selection is no more or less important than anyone else's VP selection because of the threat of assassination. I personally would like to see him go with retired General Wesley Clark if Obama wins.
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Post by Sapphire on Jan 31, 2008 12:07:32 GMT -5
Good point. Honestly I feel the running mate is important regardless of an assassination attempt. But you're right security is always an issue. As for Bush, I think the crazies that usually carry out these attempts are probably Bush supporters. LOL. Except for the lovesick stalkers in Reagan's situation.
General Clark was a candidate last time, right? What's he up to nowadays?
And PS, I'm mad about the 26.5. How was it only half a cuss out?
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Post by Champs Elysees on Jan 31, 2008 12:20:40 GMT -5
^^^^agrees with this
Plus I think they let him know (his own party) that he would run (if he ran) only when they said he could. I have never before seen party officials declare that a certain person wouldn't be running for office of President ahead of the actual person himself. But that's how I remember it happening. I can't remember who it was, but there was dude who basically said, "Colin Powell will NOT be running for the Republican Nomination for President" and I just remember thinking to myself...
...ain't that for Colin to say? But a little bit later -he came out and said the same thing. Didn't that happen with Kwiesi Mfume and the Democratic Party last election (2006)?
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Post by Robelite on Jan 31, 2008 16:14:25 GMT -5
Whichever of Obama/Clinton wins the nomination, they will pick the other as the running mate. If that happens, I think they win in a landslide. Folks are sick of the repubbbas, and McCain (most likely the repub candidate) isn't necessarily a favorite of his own party.
What's so sad about that, is that McCain is disliked because he has a history of showing a spirit of COOPERATION across party lines to get things done. That alone let's you know how crazy these con-publicans are, and how far they'll go to tow the party line. While I'm not wild about the prospect, I could be satisfied with McCain in the WH.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 31, 2008 18:36:36 GMT -5
General Clark was a candidate last time, right? What's he up to nowadays? And PS, I'm mad about the 26.5. How was it only half a cuss out? I stopped in the middle of one cuss yesterday, and I thought I would go ahead and take credit for only doing half of it. ;D
I don't know where Wesley Clark is now, but yes he did run last time.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 31, 2008 18:37:15 GMT -5
^^^^agrees with this
Plus I think they let him know (his own party) that he would run (if he ran) only when they said he could. I have never before seen party officials declare that a certain person wouldn't be running for office of President ahead of the actual person himself. But that's how I remember it happening. I can't remember who it was, but there was dude who basically said, "Colin Powell will NOT be running for the Republican Nomination for President" and I just remember thinking to myself...
...ain't that for Colin to say? But a little bit later -he came out and said the same thing. Didn't that happen with Kwiesi Mfume and the Democratic Party last election (2006)? I don't remember that happening but I wouldn't put it past the DNC or it's members to do that also.
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Post by DamieQue™ on Jan 31, 2008 18:38:26 GMT -5
Whichever of Obama/Clinton wins the nomination, they will pick the other as the running mate. If that happens, I think they win in a landslide. Folks are sick of the repubbbas, and McCain (most likely the repub candidate) isn't necessarily a favorite of his own party. What's so sad about that, is that McCain is disliked because he has a history of showing a spirit of COOPERATION across party lines to get things done. That alone let's you know how crazy these con-publicans are, and how far they'll go to tow the party line. While I'm not wild about the prospect, I could be satisfied with McCain in the WH. I honestly don't think a double non-traditional ticket will win. I think they'll be okay with a black man and a white man, or a white woman and a white man, but not a black man and a white woman.
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